Shouldn't this flame-bait thread stop now ? Guys, you're just annoying
people interested in getting things done!

Get a beer! And if you're an American, go out and vote!

- Akhilesh

On Nov 4, 10:40 pm, Matthias Benkard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Nov 4, 6:12 pm, Rich Hickey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > The CPL doesn't allow me to choose the GPL.
>
> > You've got this completely backwards - the GPL doesn't allow you to  
> > combine with certain things, whereas the CPL is fine with it.
>
> I know that, but the fact is, the GPL has been widely used for a long
> time, and consciously choosing a GPL-incompatible license in this
> scenario means preventing users from making use of a lot of existing
> code.
>
> Circumstance has it that there is a conflict between the CPL and the
> GPL.  This doesn't make either the CPL or the GPL a bad license.  It
> does make it more important to think about the choice of license and
> the practical consequences thereof.
>
> > Completely untrue - the CPL makes no requirements whatsoever on  
> > libraries with which it is combined. The problem lies with GPL.
>
> Again, it's not the license itself, it's the _choice_ of license that
> I'm talking about.
>
> > > Therefore, by choosing the CPL, you're making a political statement
> > > against a sizable part of the Free Software movement.  This ought not
> > > to be done without thorough consideration, I think.
>
> > I'm not making any statement. Some people who choose the GPL end up  
> > with restrictions about which they are unhappy.  LGPL and classpath  
> > exceptions exist for a reason.
>
> Yes, but you _could_ choose a slightly different license, right?  A
> license just like the CPL, but without a choice-of-law clause?  Which
> could make a lot of people happy?
>
> You have no obligation to do so, moral or otherwise, and I'm not
> trying to make you look evil for choosing GPL incompatibility or
> anything.  You may say the GPL crowd's unhappiness about the CPL is
> their own fault, not yours -- and you're right.  The license choice is
> up to you.  I'm just trying to explain what the problem is, and that
> there is a political aspect to it that one might overlook easily.
>
> Matthias
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