> > It is not something to do know, but instead something that could have
> been
> > done introducing 0.96...
> 
> Giampaolo:  There are lots of things that COULD be done, but it is not
> the
> philosophy of the ClamAV project.
> 
> As I said, the devs have made it clear in the past that they feel clamd
> should fail to run on any problem. They also, it seems to me, have made
> it
> clear they do not think people should run older versions, ever, for any
> reason.
> 
> Therefor, this is my own statement and I don't want to put words in the
> devs
> mouth, but the clear message I get from them is if you aren't the type
> of
> admin who always installs the latest, then don't run Clamav. Period.
> It's
> not the right thing for you.

Let me say first that the systems I manage, i.e.: the ones of my direct
clients, didn't even noticed this problem since they are all running 0.96
from a Gentoo distro.

I'm driven into this thread by a very different reason, which I believe is a
bit wider in meaning than ranting against imaginary culprits of my own
troubles. It is about open software and respect of the (mis?)use people do
of it.

The fact that old clamscans stop working because of a remote "kill" update,
is grave as it would be for Microsoft to stop 2000 from working with an
update. Yes, 2000 is a dangerous thing nowadays. But nevertheless who are
you to shut my computer?

Christopher, you may or may not be the ClamAV spokesman. Nevertheless I
would like to let the team know that the 0.96 case didn't create trouble to
administrators (whether or not "responsible"), but to open-software users. I
believe by the way a lot of "irresponsible" administrators are really happy
with the ClamAV team right now, since they are going to be hired to fix
troubles around or -even better- to install new stuff.

That said, please note it is not a matter of administration: most small
systems are basically unmanaged and owners do know they are not up-to-date
and that occasionally viruses may slip in. Owners simply feel this is worth
the fact they don't have to pay for any assistance. When too many viruses
gets to their mailbox, then they call somebody to fix things.

But if you stop their crappy mailing systems, they will switch to something
else.

Are developers willing this? I hope they're not.

Giampaolo

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