On Apr 16, 2010, at 2:17 PM, Giampaolo Tomassoni wrote:


Instead, I preferred ClamAV. And I'm still helping the way I can: I'm
reporting malware, and now I'm debating on the 0.96 case. And I'm really sad when I discover that a move could put in danger the reputability of the
whole project.

Because I'm a bit old. And I like freedom. And I prefer to have to bother with mailing lists and bulletin reports and have the control of systems, instead of put my work in the hand of people who could change the rules at
will.

An open-source project is not supposed to change rules at will. The license itself of open source software is often oriented toward this view, such that it guarantees people to keep using software they already got, even when the
project becomes a completely commercial one.

Exactly but the ONLY thing open-source guarantees is that you will not be charged for the source code. The fact that the community provides binaries is a convenience for you (and the rest of us). If you chose to build your own, you could have prevented this by modifying the source code.

A remote kill is very dangerous to a commercially-oriented product, but may be a real disaster to an open-source one. Because the open-source idea is
all based on freedom.

They did not do a "Remote kill" They sent out one of the new style signatures which your installed version could not handle. It is still your responsibility as it is the responsibility of everyone who sets up a server to ensure it DOES what they want in case of a failure. You chose to keep the default behavior which is to block mail when it can't be scanned and want to blame ClamAV for that. All they are responsible for is sending out the new signatures as they had promised.

The ClamAV team can't act the way it did and not risk to be censured by the
open-source community.

If people blames you and feels betrayed by you, it is not a "sysadm
matter"...

Giampaolo

Yes it is, as my systems did not fail nor did anyone who bothered to heed the warnings that clamd would STOP working and took steps to mitigate the situation. That could be by upgrading or not accepting new signatures or ANY other method including modifying the source code.



As far as whether or not you can trust ClamAV, if this was sprung upon
server operators without notice, that might be a consideration.  It
wasn't.

The difference is that this screaming gets attention and gets the
attention of incompetently managed server operators so that things get
fixed.

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