> On Feb 3, 2025, at 3:40 PM, Alexander Schreiber via cctalk > <cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > ... > On top of that: A lot of those LLMs are build on theft at an epically large > scale. They hovered up everything in sight (and then some) without even > pretending to care about intellectual property rights - e.g. the NY Times > has taken OpenAI to court because they managed to make the OpenAI LLMs > spit out long verbatim fragments of NY Times content. The hilarious part > is that DeepSeek essentially stole from OpenAI that which OpenAI previously > stole from everyone else and OpenAI is very angry about the lack of honor > among thieves or something ;-) Excellent point. I tend to refer to LLMs as "derived work generators" to point out the copyright problems that are fundamental to what they do. I also tend to wonder about web hoovering as a training scheme, given that a lot of web content is fiction. And I don't mean "misinformation", I just mean novels and the like. What happens to an LLM that inhales "The Martian" or "Ringworld" ? paul
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