On 2/20/19 12:23 PM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote:
Please note that among LANs, there is Token Ring (802.5) and there is everything else.

I think it really depends on how you look at them.

From a frame formatting point of view, Ethernet is the odd ball when looking at how TCP/IP is carried.

Everything other than Ethernet (802.3) uses 802.2 or a medium specific varient of 802.2. Then there's Ethernet which predominantly uses either Ethernet II for TCP/IP or 802.3 (a.k.a. "Raw") Ethernet frames for IPX.

FDDI is like Ethernet and like 802.4. Token Ring is the oddball because (a) it doesn't have proper multicast addresses, and (b) for some reason IBM invented source-routed bridging and tied that to Token Ring.

Does it actually need a broadcast address like Ethernet when the ring passes through all the stations? Or is that functionally comparable to a multicast?

FDDI is in no way at all like Token Ring. The only thing the two have in common is "token" and "ring". The MAC protocol is utterly different; the closest relative is 802.4 Token Bus. And as far as addressing is concerned, FDDI is like 802.4 and Ethernet, with real multicast and general use of normal transparent bridges.

The only complication with FDDI (and 802.4, if you could find it) is that it only has 802.2 frames, not classic-Ethernet (with 16 bit protocol types). So an FDDI to Ethernet bridge has to translate Ethernet frames to an 802.2 based encapsulation. That is done by converting them to SNAP frames, as described in RFC 1042.

Intriguing.

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Bridges like the DECbridge 500 and DECbridge 900 will do that; I assume Cisco does likewise.

FDDI didn't live all that long because 100 Mb Ethernet replaced it, but while it was out there it made a fine backbone for Ethernet-based LANs.

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