> On Oct 8, 2016, at 12:46 PM, "j...@cimmeri.com" <j...@cimmeri.com> wrote:
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> On 10/8/2016 11:22 AM, Corey Cohen wrote:
>>> On Oct 8, 2016, at 12:07 PM, "j...@cimmeri.com"<j...@cimmeri.com>  wrote:
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>>> The fact that a friggin' *movie* raises the value of something, also really 
>>> irks me.  How did movies ever become the be-all, end-all?
>>> 
>>> I'm sure others are irked as well by the intrusions of greed or 
>>> irrationality into what can otherwise be a pure, unadulterated, hobby.  
>>> Isn't it funny that the word "adult" is used in "adulterated" -- as if the 
>>> notion of adulthood renders things impure.  Well, in this case, certain 
>>> forms of adulthood do due render this hobby impure.
>>> 
>>> - J.
>> I think you misunderstood my points.
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> I actually completely understood them.  Maybe you misunderstand mine.
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>> The hobby has already changed.
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> Not for me it hasn't.  You write of "the hobby" as a monolith.  It's not 
> monolithic; there's more than one hobby (or outcome), circling around these 
> material items.  In other words, there's these material items out there in 
> the marketplace (or that eventually reach a marketplace), and these items can 
> go down different roads depending on why they're purchased.   There's *this* 
> particular hobbyist road, then there's the investment road, the museum road, 
> and so on.  Some people also combine purposes.
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>>  Just like the car collecting, comic book collection and just about most 
>> other hobbies when they mature.   The same type of people who complained 
>> about the price of an Xmen#1 because people would just buy and display them 
>> and not read them, complain when someone buys an ALTAIR to sit on their desk 
>> and doesn't turn it on.   Better that than the garbage heap, without money 
>> coming into our hobby it would eventually die out and many artifacts would 
>> be lost to the dump.
> 
> I think the people who complain about "Altairs just sitting on desks" might 
> be doing so for at least one reason being because a particular purpose seems 
> to violate the original spirit, intent, and purpose behind the creation.  I 
> hear that a lot eg. "it's a shame it's just sitting there, not being used."
> 
> It's when other purposes come in, and begin to make this hobby purpose more 
> difficult to engage in and "unobtainium", that the hobbyists lament.  If 
> there were enough for everyone, then there'd be no complaining.
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> I partially disagree that money needs to come into *our* hobby to keep it 
> alive.  Rather, I hold that money needs to go into *their* investment purpose 
> to keep THAT purpose alive.   I think we'd do just fine, paying reasonable 
> amounts, to keep our hobby alive without these other purposes in the game.
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> - J.
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I think we will just have to agree to disagree. Which is totally cool with me, 
each of us have a different opinion on this stuff.   I have multiple collecting 
hobbies and they all resemble one another eventually.  

Cheers,
Corey

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