Been following this thread a bit a realized it's time to chime in. 

The Mustang analogy is a good one.  This hobby is becoming like collecting 
cars.  You really can't predict which stuff is going to be worth big money but 
the stuff that does always surprises the guys who owned one back in the day.  

Think about all the guys who basically threw away or sold for next to nothing 
their muscle cars in the 70's.  How many split window corvettes survived the 
gas shortage.   Today one of those cars needing restoration could go for more 
than the average home price in the US, make that more than two average homes.  

Parts can go for ridiculous amounts for someone who wants a complete set.  I 
can remember searching for 6 months for a perfect tool set for my Porsche a few 
years back.  If I would have found a NOS tool kit, I might have paid big money 
just to keep myself sane.  

As for stuff in vintage computer that is going up, it's not just Apple.  It has 
to do with how mainstream and how rare something is.  That Cromemco set went 
for good money, actually a little less than I would have guessed but more than 
it would have been only a few years ago.   What do I mean by mainstream...  
we'll just because only two of an item exists, someone has to care.  The 
dazzler was a big deal because of the display on the street in NYC which might 
have been the first time people saw computer generated video in person.  So 
while the general population doesn't remember the name Cromemco (if they did it 
would have gone for more than 2k) the set itself is mainstream enough for 
people who know a little about 1970's computers who collect to want one and 
spend the money.  The increasing price is because of unobtanium.  Those 
joysticks are very rare.  Sure this may bring more out of the closet, but 
unless they turn out to be C64 common, the price is set now.  

As for other stuff that is gaining in price, I do agree the rare Apple stuff is 
growing faster, but that's because it can pull from the business community as 
buyers who love the comeback story of Apple and what it represents.  Here are 
some other non Apple examples...  a Sol-20 could have been had for a few 
hundred bucks not too long ago.  Now unless you want a rust bucket they are 
minimally 1k and a good working example can cost 2 to 3k.  ALTAIR are another 
example.  Grant Stocky's replica kit used to be more expensive than buying a 
real rev-0.   Don't even get me started on ASR-33 or an ADM terminal.  

So does this mean you should hoard everything you have until the price goes up? 
 I don't have a crystal ball to tell you what is the next item of value.  Who 
knew that a movie about the Tucker automobile would make a Tucker one of the 
most desirable cars to a rare car collector.  Before then they were just a 
failed car company along with many others so they stuff wasn't worth big money. 
 Or the fact I could buy a vintage Maserati for 10k back in the 90's when it 
looked they they wouldn't survive which is now worth 200k or more since the 
company not only survived but became a "hip" car to own. 

Now if you'll excuse me I'm off to draw some tarot cards to set my eBay search 
list...

Cheers,
Corey

corey cohen
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> On Oct 7, 2016, at 11:46 PM, Brent Hilpert <hilp...@cs.ubc.ca> wrote:
> 
> 
> On 2016-Oct-07, at 5:17 PM, Noel Chiappa wrote:
> 
>>> On 10/7/2016 5:21 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote:
>> 
>>> That simply defies logic. I *really* don't get this collecting business.
>> 
>> It's Apple-related. Some Apple devotees seem to have an, ah, excessive
>> attachment to things Apple. (Q.v. $1M Apple I's.) I'm suprised that some of
>> them didn't commit suttee when Steve died.
> 
> I agree this valuation is primarily "Apple"-driven rather than say 
> "vintage-computer" driven,
> but here's an interesting non-Apple sale, just completed:
>    
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cromemco-Dazzler-JP-1-Joysticks-D-7A-S-100-Card-Docs-Games-for-MITS-Altair-IMSAI-/291888851989
> 

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