I guess I should remind subscribers that the CCP4BB has a public archive, at https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?A0=ccp4bb.
On a personal note, I always appreciate the courage of those who call out the bullshit in the world, and I've enjoyed the eloquent messages in this thread (though the content is depressing). Best wishes, David On Wed, 12 Mar 2025, 21:04 Katherine Sippel, <katherine.sip...@gmail.com> wrote: > My response was more of a suggestion to make sure these types of > conversations are held via a personal email where "The Man" would require > sufficient probable cause for a judge to issue a warrant rather than an > institutional email that does not have such a barrier. That being said, I > have had more than one work email recently where I asked myself "would you > want to have to defend this in front of a McCarthy-esque congressional > inquest" and made a phone call instead. So, you're completely right. Thank > you for the gut check. > > Cheers, > Kat > > On Wed, Mar 12, 2025 at 2:31 PM Artem Evdokimov <artem.evdoki...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> The first thing that happens as freedom of speech dies is that diligent >> self censorship becomes the norm. People acquire a Komissar inside their >> heads. >> >> When I was a kid, my parents had to remind me daily not to share with >> school kids the jokes told at home because 'mommy does not want to go to >> Gulag'. >> >> Word to the wise. >> >> Artem >> >> On Wed, Mar 12, 2025, 15:21 Katherine Sippel <katherine.sip...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> I love this conversation. It is an important one right now that >>> addresses the intersection between the precise language needed to >>> communicate science and the greater zeitgeist around politicization of >>> vocabulary. It will be interesting to see how the etymology of scientific >>> language migrates in response to this selective pressure. >>> >>> However, if you will allow me to put on my tinfoil hat for a moment, I >>> feel compelled to remind the faculty from publicly funded universities in >>> the US that your institutional emails may be subject to Freedom of >>> Information Act requests. I was at the University of Florida when the >>> Organic Consumers Association decided to go after Kevin Folta via US Right >>> to Know, and it was nasty. I would not put it past the administration to >>> weaponize FOIA requests in the future to root out dissent among US >>> academics. Just something to consider when engaging in these types of >>> conversations. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Kat Sippel, PhD, ELS >>> >>> On Wed, Mar 12, 2025 at 1:41 PM Harry Powell < >>> 0000193323b1e616-dmarc-requ...@jiscmail.ac.uk> wrote: >>> >>>> "_golf_ of America” particularly apt with current POTUS… >>>> >>>> Harry >>>> >>>> > On 12 Mar 2025, at 17:49, Oganesyan, Vaheh < >>>> vaheh.oganes...@astrazeneca.com> wrote: >>>> > >>>> > You never know what is on their minds (Musk&Don). Would you guess >>>> anything related to Greenland before hearing it, or golf of America? >>>> > >>>> > Vaheh >>>> > >>>> > From: CCP4 bulletin board <CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK> On Behalf Of Harry >>>> Powell >>>> > Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2025 1:30 PM >>>> > To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK >>>> > Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Words to avoid >>>> > >>>> > I don’t thnk that’s why it’s been banned... >>>> > >>>> > > On 12 Mar 2025, at 17:09, Ian Tickle <ianj...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > --------- Forwarded message --------- >>>> > > From: Ian Tickle <ianj...@gmail.com> >>>> > > Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2025, 14:08 >>>> > > Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Words to avoid >>>> > > To: Herbert J. Bernstein <yaya...@gmail.com> >>>> > > >>>> > > I spell it 'polarisation' anyway (from Late Latin 'Stella Polaris' >>>> = 'Pole Star'). >>>> > > >>>> > > Cheers >>>> > > >>>> > > -- Ian >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > On Tue, 11 Mar 2025, 20:00 Herbert J. Bernstein, <yaya...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> > > Dear Colleagues, >>>> > > When I got home today, Frances presented me with an article from >>>> the >>>> > > NY Times which contained the attached list of words and the >>>> explanation, >>>> > > "As President Trump seeks to purge the federal government of "woke" >>>> initiatives, agencies have flagged hundreds of words to limit or avoid, >>>> > > according to a compilation of government documents." >>>> > > For this audience in particular, please note that "Mx", >>>> "polarization", "orientation", "status", "systemic". "discrimination", >>>> "equality", "expression", "barriers", and "bias" are among the words to >>>> avoid. 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