So, easier for Germans to pronounce, but hard for everyone to spell?

> On Mar 16, 2025, at 12:51 PM, Frances C. Bernstein <f...@marbuta.pair.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Bremsstrahlung, not Bremstrahlung.
> 
>             Frances Bernstein
> 
> 
> On 2025-03-16 12:47, Jurgen Bosch wrote:
> 
>> I insist on Bremstrahlung - just because it is a more difficult word for 
>> non-Germans.
>>  
>> Jürgen 
>> 
>>> On Mar 16, 2025, at 11:54 AM, David J. Schuller <schul...@cornell.edu> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Could it be time for a return to "Roentgen rays"?
>>>  
>>> ... with a side of Freedom Fries
>>>  
>>>  
>>> =======================================================================
>>>  All Things Serve the Beam
>>>  =======================================================================
>>>                                  David J. Schuller
>>>                                  modern man in a post-modern world
>>>                                  MacCHESS, Cornell University
>>>                                  schul...@cornell.edu 
>>> <mailto:schul...@cornell.edu>
>>>  
>>> From: CCP4 bulletin board <CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK> on behalf of Debanu 
>>> <ddas.cons...@gmail.com>
>>> Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2025 11:17
>>> To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK <CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK>
>>> Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] e: [ccp4bb] Words to avoid
>>>  
>>> "As an NMR person I create a lot of Mx (magnetization)"
>>> >> more X than the X-ray crystallographers, MX-Macromolecular 
>>> >> Crystallographers and synchrotron magnetizations here?
>>> Sorry, could not resist, despite the trying times..:)
>>>  
>>> Best,
>>> Debanu
>>>  
>>> On Sun, Mar 16, 2025 at 08:11 Remco Sprangers <remco.sprang...@ur.de 
>>> <mailto:remco.sprang...@ur.de>> wrote:
>>> Dear all,
>>> 
>>> this development is really worrying and sad.....But, before banning whole 
>>> words, one should maybe start by banning some letters. In this context I 
>>> suggest we all stop using (the letter) X and alike.
>>> 
>>> Best, Remco
>>> 
>>> p.s. As an NMR person I create a lot of Mx (magnetization), does this make 
>>> me suspicious as of now (also outside this mailing list)?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sun, 16 Mar 2025, Navdeep Sidhu wrote:
>>> 
>>> > Dear Colleagues,
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > What can one say beyond "Shameless sexism, racism and ableism"? Perhaps 
>>> > this:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > "To omit or to minimize [the] voices of resistance is to create the idea 
>>> > that 
>>> > power only rests with those who have the guns, who possess the wealth, 
>>> > who 
>>> > own the newspapers and the television stations. I want to point out that 
>>> > people who seem to have no power, whether working people, people of 
>>> > color, or 
>>> > women—once they organize and protest and create movements—have a voice no 
>>> > government can suppress."
>>> >  -- Howard Zinn, from the Introduction to "Voices of a People's History 
>>> > of 
>>> > the United States" 
>>> > <https://www.zinnedproject.org/materials/voices-of-a-peoples-history-of-the-united-states/>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > And this:
>>> >
>>> > "Don't mourn. Organize."
>>> >  -- Wobbly songwriter Joe Hill
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > By the way, George Orwell's own introduction to "1984" was successfully 
>>> > suppressed for decades because in it he'd lamented self-censorship in 
>>> > Britain. The Kommissar lives within us too.
>>> >
>>> > But there are cultures in which this wasn't so, including aboriginal 
>>> > cultures 
>>> > in North America, who understood the idea of "freedom" better. It's 
>>> > thought 
>>> > they were likely behind the ideas of the European Enlightenment.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Diversely, with best wishes,
>>> > Navdeep
>>> > Germany
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ---
>>> > On 13.03.25 19:24, David J. Schuller wrote:
>>> >> https://gizmodo.com/we-are-witnessing-a-new-brain-drain-as-scientists-flee-america-for-france-2000575654
>>> >> <https://gizmodo.com/we-are-witnessing-a-new-brain-drain-as-scientists-flee-america-for-france-2000575654>
>>> >> 
>>> >> *'We Are Witnessing a New Brain Drain' as Scientists Flee America for 
>>> >> France*
>>> >> 
>>> >> 
>>> >> =======================================================================
>>> >>   All Things Serve the Beam
>>> >>   =======================================================================
>>> >>                                   David J. Schuller
>>> >>                                   modern man in a post-modern world
>>> >>                                   MacCHESS, Cornell University
>>> >>                                   schul...@cornell.edu 
>>> >> <mailto:schul...@cornell.edu>
>>> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> >> *From:* CCP4 bulletin board <CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK 
>>> >> <mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK>> on behalf of V.
>>> >> Nagarajan <tato...@gmail.com <mailto:tato...@gmail.com>>
>>> >> *Sent:* Thursday, March 13, 2025 09:43
>>> >> *To:* CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK <mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK> 
>>> >> <CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK <mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK>>
>>> >> *Subject:* Re: [ccp4bb] Words to avoid
>>> >> Here's an article from ProPublica, explaining how they used AI to search 
>>> >> through some 3,400 research grants called "woke" by Texas senator Ted 
>>> >> Cruz:
>>> >> GettyImages-1097249104.jpg
>>> >> link.propublica.net <http://link.propublica.net/>
>>> >> <https://link.propublica.net/view/652e85710205761260069218n7d7l.31ll/c6f60ac7>
>>> >> 
>>> >> <https://link.propublica.net/view/652e85710205761260069218n7d7l.31ll/c6f60ac7>
>>> >> 
>>> >>
>>> >>  From the article: 'Among them: a $470,000 grant to study the evolution 
>>> >> of 
>>> >> mint plants and how they spread across continents. As best Philip and 
>>> >> Song 
>>> >> could tell, the project was flagged because of two specific words used 
>>> >> in 
>>> >> its application to the NSF: "diversify," referring to the biodiversity 
>>> >> of 
>>> >> plants, and "female," where the application noted how the project would 
>>> >> support a young female scientist on the research team.
>>> >> 
>>> >> Another involved developing a device that could treat severe bleeding. 
>>> >> It 
>>> >> included the words "victims" — as in gunshot victims — and "trauma."'
>>> >> 
>>> >> V. Nagarajan
>>> >> 
>>> >>> On Mar 13, 2025, at 5:13 AM, ΕΜΜΑΝΟΥΗΛ ΣΑΡΕΙΔΑΚΗΣ 
>>> >>> <000100730073ca33-dmarc-requ...@jiscmail.ac.uk 
>>> >>> <mailto:000100730073ca33-dmarc-requ...@jiscmail.ac.uk>> wrote:
>>> >>> 
>>> >>> 
>>> >>> 
>>> >>> The problem is not to ensure confidentiality of what one writes. It is 
>>> >>> to 
>>> >>> ensure that one can write publicly (within some limits, see below) 
>>> >>> without 
>>> >>> fear.
>>> >>> 
>>> >>> To go back to the original conversation, I think we have here an 
>>> >>> example 
>>> >>> of a "pendulum effect". The onslaught on what cannot be said started on 
>>> >>> the "progressist", "woke", "politically correct" side, as explained in 
>>> >>> the 
>>> >>> article forwarded yesterday on this thread by Bryan Lepore. These 
>>> >>> people 
>>> >>> were well-meant, on a high moral ground and earnestly dedicated to 
>>> >>> rectifying earlier iniquities. Nevertheless, as often happens with 
>>> >>> well-meant actions, these initiatives quickly degenerated, in this case 
>>> >>> into rather indiscriminate censorship, nonsensical grammar 
>>> >>> (ungrammatical 
>>> >>> pronouns and the like) and sometimes worse.
>>> >>> 
>>> >>> Then, the pendulum swung, and the "progressist" bigots were replaced by 
>>> >>> the real ones, who are not on a moral high ground, but are feeding on 
>>> >>> the 
>>> >>> mistrust and outrage generated by the previous status quo. The real 
>>> >>> bigots 
>>> >>> are of course many times worse than the ones that became so by 
>>> >>> excessive 
>>> >>> enthusiasm, and this is what we are seeing now (mostly in the US for 
>>> >>> the 
>>> >>> moment, but it's spreading).
>>> >>> 
>>> >>> So, I think the questions to ask are: is any form of censorship 
>>> >>> acceptable 
>>> >>> and, if yes, to what extent? My answer to the first question is yes: 
>>> >>> any 
>>> >>> bigot Right and Left should not be allowed to go around spreading lies 
>>> >>> and 
>>> >>> victimising people. The US has been in many cases an example of too 
>>> >>> little 
>>> >>> censorship: it is one of the most tolerant places in the West for those 
>>> >>> who are openly Neonazi for example. The answer to the second question 
>>> >>> must 
>>> >>> be: censorship should be tolerated to the least possible extent, it 
>>> >>> must 
>>> >>> be well-vetted, well-justified and liable to questioning, challenge and 
>>> >>> rational revision at all times. Ideally, it should also have some 
>>> >>> rapport 
>>> >>> with a somewhat objective notion of truth. Given the strained 
>>> >>> relationship 
>>> >>> of the present US Government with all the above concepts, I have little 
>>> >>> hope.
>>> >>> 
>>> >>> Emmanuel
>>> >>> 
>>> >>> Dr. Emmanuel Saridakis
>>> >>> Institute of Nanoscience & Nanotechnology
>>> >>> National Centre for Scientific Research "DEMOKRITOS"
>>> >>> Athens 15341, Greece.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>     
>>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> >>>     *From: *David <dgwater...@gmail.com <mailto:dgwater...@gmail.com>>
>>> >>>     *To: *CCP4BB <CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK <mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK>>
>>> >>>     *Date: *Thursday, 13 March 2025 12:10 PM EET
>>> >>>     *Subject: *Re: [ccp4bb] Words to avoid
>>> >>>
>>> >>>     I guess I should remind subscribers that the CCP4BB has a public
>>> >>>     archive, at https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?A0=ccp4bb
>>> >>>     <https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?A0=ccp4bb>.
>>> >>>     On a personal note, I always appreciate the courage of those who
>>> >>>     call out the bullshit in the world, and I've enjoyed the eloquent
>>> >>>     messages in this thread (though the content is depressing).
>>> >>>     Best wishes,
>>> >>>     David
>>> >>>
>>> >>>     On Wed, 12 Mar 2025, 21:04 Katherine Sippel,
>>> >>>     <katherine.sip...@gmail.com <mailto:katherine.sip...@gmail.com> 
>>> >>> <mailto:katherine.sip...@gmail.com <mailto:katherine.sip...@gmail.com>>>
>>> >>>     wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>         My response was more of a suggestion to make sure these
>>> >>>         types of conversations are held via a personal email where
>>> >>>         "The Man" would require sufficient probable cause for a judge
>>> >>>         to issue a warrant rather than an institutional email that
>>> >>>         does not have such a barrier. That being said, I have had more
>>> >>>         than one work email recently where I asked myself "would you
>>> >>>         want to have to defend this in front of a McCarthy-esque
>>> >>>         congressional inquest" and made a phone call instead. So,
>>> >>>         you're completely right. Thank you for the gut check.
>>> >>>         Cheers,
>>> >>>         Kat
>>> >>>
>>> >>>         On Wed, Mar 12, 2025 at 2:31 PM Artem Evdokimov
>>> >>>         <artem.evdoki...@gmail.com <mailto:artem.evdoki...@gmail.com> 
>>> >>> <mailto:artem.evdoki...@gmail.com <mailto:artem.evdoki...@gmail.com>>>
>>> >>>         wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>             The first thing that happens as freedom of speech dies is
>>> >>>             that diligent self censorship becomes the norm. People
>>> >>>             acquire a Komissar inside their heads.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>             When I was a kid, my parents had to remind me daily not to
>>> >>>             share with school kids the jokes told at home because
>>> >>>             'mommy does not want to go to Gulag'.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>             Word to the wise.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>             Artem
>>> >>> 
>>> >>>
>>> >>>             On Wed, Mar 12, 2025, 15:21 Katherine Sippel
>>> >>>             <katherine.sip...@gmail.com 
>>> >>> <mailto:katherine.sip...@gmail.com>
>>> >>>             <mailto:katherine.sip...@gmail.com 
>>> >>> <mailto:katherine.sip...@gmail.com>>> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>                 I love this conversation. It is an important one right
>>> >>>                 now that addresses the intersection between the
>>> >>>                 precise language needed to communicate science and the
>>> >>>                 greater zeitgeist around politicization of vocabulary.
>>> >>>                 It will be interesting to see how the etymology of
>>> >>>                 scientific language migrates in response to this
>>> >>>                 selective pressure.
>>> >>>                 However, if you will allow me to put on my tinfoil hat
>>> >>>                 for a moment, I feel compelled to remind the faculty
>>> >>>                 from publicly funded universities in the US that your
>>> >>>                 institutional emails may be subject to Freedom of
>>> >>>                 Information Act requests. I was at the University of
>>> >>>                 Florida when the Organic Consumers Association decided
>>> >>>                 to go after Kevin Folta via US Right to Know, and it
>>> >>>                 was nasty. I would not put it past the administration
>>> >>>                 to weaponize FOIA requests in the future to root out
>>> >>>                 dissent among US academics. Just something to consider
>>> >>>                 when engaging in these types of conversations.
>>> >>>                 Cheers,
>>> >>>                 Kat Sippel, PhD, ELS
>>> >>>
>>> >>>                 On Wed, Mar 12, 2025 at 1:41 PM Harry Powell
>>> >>>                 <0000193323b1e616-dmarc-requ...@jiscmail.ac.uk 
>>> >>> <mailto:0000193323b1e616-dmarc-requ...@jiscmail.ac.uk>
>>> >>>                 <mailto:0000193323b1e616-dmarc-requ...@jiscmail.ac.uk 
>>> >>> <mailto:0000193323b1e616-dmarc-requ...@jiscmail.ac.uk>>>
>>> >>> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>                     "_golf_ of America" particularly apt with current
>>> >>>                     POTUS...
>>> >>>
>>> >>>                     Harry
>>> >>>
>>> >>>                     > On 12 Mar 2025, at 17:49, Oganesyan, Vaheh
>>> >>>                     <vaheh.oganes...@astrazeneca.com 
>>> >>> <mailto:vaheh.oganes...@astrazeneca.com>
>>> >>>                     <mailto:vaheh.oganes...@astrazeneca.com 
>>> >>> <mailto:vaheh.oganes...@astrazeneca.com>>> wrote:
>>> >>>                     >
>>> >>>                     > You never know what is on their minds
>>> >>>                     (Musk&Don). Would you guess anything related to
>>> >>>                     Greenland before hearing it, or golf of America?
>>> >>>                     >
>>> >>>                     > Vaheh
>>> >>>                     >
>>> >>>                     > From: CCP4 bulletin board <CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK 
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>>> >>> <mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK>>> On Behalf Of Harry
>>> >>>                     Powell
>>> >>>                     > Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2025 1:30 PM
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>>> >>> <mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK>>
>>> >>>                     > Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Words to avoid
>>> >>>                     >
>>> >>>                     > I don't thnk that's why it's been banned...
>>> >>>                     >
>>> >>>                     > > On 12 Mar 2025, at 17:09, Ian Tickle
>>> >>>                     <ianj...@gmail.com <mailto:ianj...@gmail.com> 
>>> >>> <mailto:ianj...@gmail.com <mailto:ianj...@gmail.com>>> wrote:
>>> >>>                     > >
>>> >>>                     > >
>>> >>>                     > > --------- Forwarded message ---------
>>> >>>                     > > From: Ian Tickle <ianj...@gmail.com 
>>> >>> <mailto:ianj...@gmail.com>
>>> >>>                     <mailto:ianj...@gmail.com 
>>> >>> <mailto:ianj...@gmail.com>>>
>>> >>>                     > > Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2025, 14:08
>>> >>>                     > > Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Words to avoid
>>> >>>                     > > To: Herbert J. Bernstein <yaya...@gmail.com 
>>> >>> <mailto:yaya...@gmail.com>
>>> >>>                     <mailto:yaya...@gmail.com 
>>> >>> <mailto:yaya...@gmail.com>>>
>>> >>>                     > >
>>> >>>                     > > I spell it 'polarisation' anyway (from Late
>>> >>>                     Latin 'Stella Polaris' = 'Pole Star').
>>> >>>                     > >
>>> >>>                     > > Cheers
>>> >>>                     > >
>>> >>>                     > > -- Ian
>>> >>>                     > >
>>> >>>                     > >
>>> >>>                     > > On Tue, 11 Mar 2025, 20:00 Herbert J.
>>> >>>                     Bernstein, <yaya...@gmail.com 
>>> >>> <mailto:yaya...@gmail.com>
>>> >>>                     <mailto:yaya...@gmail.com 
>>> >>> <mailto:yaya...@gmail.com>>> wrote:
>>> >>>                     > > Dear Colleagues,
>>> >>>                     > > When I got home today, Frances presented me
>>> >>>                     with an article from the
>>> >>>                     > > NY Times which contained the attached list of
>>> >>>                     words and the explanation,
>>> >>>                     > > "As President Trump seeks to purge the federal
>>> >>>                     government of "woke" initiatives, agencies have
>>> >>>                     flagged hundreds of words to limit or avoid,
>>> >>>                     > > according to a compilation of government
>>> >>>                     documents."
>>> >>>                     > > For this audience in particular, please note
>>> >>>                     that "Mx", "polarization", "orientation",
>>> >>>                     "status", "systemic". "discrimination",
>>> >>>                     "equality", "expression", "barriers", and "bias"
>>> >>>                     are among the words to avoid. Care should be
>>> >>>                     > > taken in writing proposals and reports since
>>> >>>                     AIs may be used for screening
>>> >>>                     > > and they are' likely to miss explanatory 
>>> >>> context.
>>> >>>                     > > Regard,
>>> >>>                     > > Herbert
>>> >>>                     > >
>>> >>>                     > >
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