Dear Pavel and Oliverio,
In our group we have had recent discussion about this issue, and I second Pavel's suggestion to introduce such a confidence measure.

When interpreting cryo-EM (but also X-ray crystallography) maps with models, we often face the problem that we have complete models (thanks to Alphafold) but incomplete density. Most often the lack of density is due to conformational flexibility. So the question is what to do with those parts that lack map support? Some favor the option not to model these parts. However, usually we are pretty certain that these parts are present, but too flexible to be observed. So I personally think that structural models should be deposited as complete as possible.

Having such a confidence measure would facilitate the interpretation of our structural models, also because it seems that not many actually open the associated deposited maps/densities when interpreting deposited structures.

Best wishes,
Tim


On 2025-03-04 00:27, Pavel Afonine wrote:
Greetings,

It's hard to disagree with this! Resolution, occupancies, and B factors only indirectly suggest what's visible and what isn't — and they can be especially difficult to interpret correctly for non-specialists. Perhaps a local confidence measure — similar to pLDDT for predicted models — could address this by condensing into a single number everything we know about the model quality and how well it fits the data, computed per atom or per residue.

All the best,
Pavel

On Mon, Mar 3, 2025 at 7:21 AM Italo Carugo Oliviero <olivieroitalo.car...@unipv.it> wrote:

    A brief reflection on IDPs

    Increasingly, people with a computer science background are
    analyzing the data deposited in the Protein Data Bank. In the case
    of conformation disorder analyses, they consider residues that are
    explicitly stated to be disordered (the old REMAR 465 records).
    This is not quite correct as there are two problems.

    - The first is that some crystallographers consider “visible,” and
    deposit their coordinates, even amino acids that have
    stratospheric B-factors, so large as to indicate that those amino
    acids are definitely “invisible” in electronic density maps.

    - The second problem has to do with crystallographic resolution.
    The amount of “invisible” amino acids increases as the
    crystallographic resolution decreases. At low resolution, electron
    density maps are often not very detailed, and some parts of them
    cannot be interpreted. But this does not mean that the amino acids
    found there are definitely “invisible.” It simply means that
    resolution might be insufficient.

    Editors and reviewers may find it useful to keep these
    considerations in mind when evaluating articles on conformational
    disorder submitted by scientists that lack a structural
    biologybackground. Or is there something else that can be done?


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