I agree with Harry, I suspect that embarrassment has no definition/ meaning in 
the context of Nature.
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Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Experimental phasing Selenomethionine data collection 
etc. tips

Hi

With this in mind, I have found the easiest way to generate AlphaFold models 
(for those not in the DB) is actually in CCP4 Cloud-remote - makes MR using AF 
models a real doddle.

See the Tutorials (in particular on MR) available with CCP4 Cloud.

Harry

> On 14 May 2024, at 09:20, Randy John Read <rj...@cam.ac.uk> wrote:
>
> Dear Marco,
>
> You don’t mention here or in the earlier thread whether you tried AlphaFold 
> models and, if you did, how you prepared them for MR. I’m happy to hear of 
> any case where we still need experimental phasing methods to solve new 
> protein structures, but we’ve seen very few examples where AlphaFold models 
> didn’t work!
>
> I’m probably not the only one who would be delighted to take a look at the 
> problem to see what we can learn from it, if AlphaFold models really aren’t 
> working.
>
> Now, back to your question: to prepare for a SAD phasing experiments one 
> place I would look would be Tom Terwilliger’s recent papers on planning and 
> analysing SAD experiments (https://doi.org/10.1107/S2059798315019269, 
> https://doi.org/10.1107/S2059798315019403) as well as other information on 
> this from the Phenix website, including the YouTube tutorials.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Randy Read
>
>> On 14 May 2024, at 01:17, Marco Bravo 
>> <0000d0eb7bee83ae-dmarc-requ...@jiscmail.ac.uk> wrote:
>>
>> Hello all,
>> I have a data collection trip next week and plan to collect data on 
>> selenomethionine derivative crystals at the al831 beamline. Are there any 
>> resources, tips, tutorials, literature etc. That you can recommend to help 
>> me prepare for these experiments. Also is there a way to plug in the 
>> experimental data into ccp4 cloud to do the automatic structure solution? Do 
>> I need native and derivative data to solve the structure? Last trip I 
>> collected a seemingly 2.8 angstrom resolution data on a crystal of the 
>> native protein but could not get a solution depsite extensive molecular 
>> replacement attempts. It seems that assigning a space group for the crystals 
>> has been troublesome as well. here is my last thread I posted about the 
>> issue for reference.
>>
>> https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=ind2402&L=CCP4BB&O=D&X=CCE6DFA19FA3D40346&Y=mbrav005%40ucr.edu&P=112302
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