Dear Tim,
I really like your example.
Has anyone of the disappointed users asked how to do it properly? Maybe
it is just as easy.
I think it's also up to me to do it properly and put more effort in it.
Often we are restrained in time and improving your toolboox in an
unexpected manner is harder to except than. But that's ok as this keeps
one flexible. I hope, I will find the time soon and get used to it as
much as whatever "the thing labelled as coffee" was;-)
Thank you all for your contributions,
Georg
Cheers,
Tim
On Wed, 9 Sep 2020 17:22:27 +0200
Georg Zocher <x...@zocher.be> wrote:
Dear Paul,
people are complaining that they have issues fitting their model in
real space using coot 0.9.x. Personally, I very briefly used coot
other the last months but also have problems using RSR properly
because I'm used to do it the way it was over the last 10 years. This
might be due to my ignorance that I did not have a more closer look
into the new features of RSR in 0.9 release and how to use them. But
from the user site it's different to handle now.
I do not understand your Ferrari comparison (sorry) as I would not
buy one even if I would have more money than one can spend. But I
would take a cup of coffee as an example. If you always go to the
same dealer to get your coffee in the morning as you know you get a
very descent and excellent tasting cup of coffee that you fully enjoy
every morning than you really get used to it. It might be than a hard
time for you if your coffee dealer tells you: Sorry guys, I do have
now an optimized coffee that is much better, taste a lot better, is
fair produced,... It's just not the coffee you drunk over the last 10
years and I will not offer that one anymore. You might give the new
one a chance, you might find it as excellent as the dealer but you
might not. From my point of view it's the lack of choice that
personally I do not like so much, especially if there is no other
coffee dealer around...
Nevertheless, I'm aware and fully respect all the effort you put in
the development of coot and I'm really grateful that coot is
available.
All the best,
Georg
Am 08.09.20 um 17:44 schrieb Paul Emsley:
On 08/09/2020 16:25, Georg Zocher wrote:
we have the same experience in our lab.
What experience is that? I am still in the dark about you think is
now worse.
Personally, I did would not like to judge here, as so far, I did
not have had enough time to get into the new RSR of coot 0.9.x by
myself. But many colleagues did not like the new refinement module
maybe just as they are used to the method in all coot versions
before.
You have a Ferrari parked beside your house but you want to to take
the bus to work because that's what you've always done. Or maybe
the Ferrari is parked around the back and you don't know it's there?
I just thought if it wouldn't be an option to let the user decide
what kind of RSR implementation she/he would like to use and give
them the choice via an option in coot preferences?
That would be possible but not easy. Unlike much of the CCP4 suite,
Coot is Free Software. But, again... why would you want to take the
bus? Explain.
regards,
Paul.
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