Dear Pavol,

Reading text files without any software is a neat trick, if you can do it.

(no file on a computer is “human readable” - but many are encoded in a form 
which allows a wide range of general tools to display it, not just specialist 
crystallography software)

;-)

I have to say, I am more impressed that Eleanor has files from ’92 - quite 
possibly older than many who will read this message!

All the best, Graeme


On 9 Nov 2018, at 13:53, Pavel Afonine 
<pafon...@gmail.com<mailto:pafon...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Now I see the value of storing data in plain text files even more (mind Shelx 
or X-plor formats, for example) -;)

<Sorry for helpless comment. Couldn't resist as I've never liked non-human 
readable files.>

On Fri, Nov 9, 2018 at 9:47 PM Clemens Vonrhein 
<vonrh...@globalphasing.com<mailto:vonrh...@globalphasing.com>> wrote:
Hi Eleanor,

You could try running the oldest MTZ2VARIOUS binary you can find -
e.g.

  wget ftp://ftp.ccp4.ac.uk/ccp4/4.2/binaries/ccp4-4.2_Linux.tar.gz
  tar -xvf ccp4-4.2_Linux.tar.gz bin/mtz2various

  bin/mtz2various hklin ...

Any older binaries (ftp://ftp.ccp4.ac.uk/ccp4/4.0.1/) will require an
SGI or Dec/Alpha machine ;-)

If that doesn't help I would first check that it is actually a correct
MTZ file: does the ASCII header (trailer) show up with

  strings your.mtz

towards the end?

Cheers

Clemens

On Fri, Nov 09, 2018 at 12:47:09PM +0000, Eleanor Dodson wrote:
> Anyone any idea what to do about this?? Created in 1992!!
> Seems unreadable..
>
> No CTYP lines input for file:  1
>     Indices output even if all data items flagged "missing"
>  Warning, NOT all LABOUT data lines given
> Warning: Machine stamp corrupted? Assuming native format.
> >>>>>> CCP4 library signal library_file:End of File (Error)
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