bring back the lcf format reflection file ;-) Prof. Susan M. Lea, FMedSci tel: +44 1865 275181 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Director of the Central Oxford Structural Microscopy and Imaging Centre & Professor of Microbiology Sir William Dunn School of Pathology, Oxford OX1 3RE Professorial Fellow @ WadhamCollege
________________________________________ From: CCP4 bulletin board <CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK> on behalf of Ian Tickle <ianj...@gmail.com> Sent: 09 November 2018 19:32:50 To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] VERY old mtz file.. PS if you're interested in software archaeology and you have the CCP4 library source code handy, check out these routines that I wrote for VAX/VMS. Yes, we kept it in the source distribution all these years! ccp4-7.0-src/checkout/libccp4/fortran/vmsdiskio.for Subroutines QFIEEE & QTIEEE illustrate the horrible data mangling you had to do just to convert between Vax floating-point and IEEE (on top of the byte-swapping!). Those were the days! Cheers -- Ian On Fri, 9 Nov 2018 at 19:17, Ian Tickle <ianj...@gmail.com<mailto:ianj...@gmail.com>> wrote: All MTZ (and map) files from the very beginning had an architecture-dependent 'machine-stamp' in the header which *should* cause the read routines to do the necessary conversions if needed (i.e. where the writing & reading machine formats differ). This was absolutely necessary in the days when we had a goodly mix of formats (VAX, Convex, Cray, SGI, IBM mainframe, IBM PC, Mac ...). Now pretty well everything is Intel or compatible, i.e. little-endian IEEE format, so this functionality hasn't been real-world tested for aeons and it's possible in the meantime that it's fallen into disrepair. Cheers -- Ian On Fri, 9 Nov 2018 at 18:57, Ethan A Merritt <merr...@u.washington.edu<mailto:merr...@u.washington.edu>> wrote: On Friday, November 9, 2018 9:12:36 AM PST Robert Esnouf wrote: > > Without checking further, there is a "dd" option for swapping big-endian to > little-endian... swab. This may simply be the issue... DEC computers used a different floating point format. Swapping endian-ness would be sufficient, although it might be required in addition. Ethan > > The output of od -x may help decode the header of the file... > > Regards, > Robert > > -- > > Dr Robert Esnouf > > University Research Lecturer, > Director of Research Computing BDI, > Head of Research Computing Core WHG, > NDM Research Computing Strategy Officer > > Main office: > Room 10/028, Wellcome Centre for Human Genetics, > Old Road Campus, Roosevelt Drive, Oxford OX3 7BN, UK > > Emails: > rob...@strubi.ox.ac.uk<mailto:rob...@strubi.ox.ac.uk> / > rob...@well.ox.ac.uk<mailto:rob...@well.ox.ac.uk> / > robert.esn...@bdi.ox.ac.uk<mailto:robert.esn...@bdi.ox.ac.uk> > > Tel: (+44)-1865-287783 (WHG); (+44)-1865-743689 (BDI) > > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Pavel Afonine" <pafon...@gmail.com<mailto:pafon...@gmail.com>> > To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK<mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK> > Date: 09/11/18 13:54 > Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] VERY old mtz file.. > > Now I see the value of storing data in plain text files even more (mind Shelx > or X-plor formats, for example) -;) > > > <Sorry for helpless comment. Couldn't resist as I've never liked non-human > readable files.> > > On Fri, Nov 9, 2018 at 9:47 PM Clemens Vonrhein > <vonrh...@globalphasing.com<mailto:vonrh...@globalphasing.com>> wrote: > > Hi Eleanor, > > You could try running the oldest MTZ2VARIOUS binary you can find - > e.g. > > wget ftp://ftp.ccp4.ac.uk/ccp4/4.2/binaries/ccp4-4.2_Linux.tar.gz > tar -xvf ccp4-4.2_Linux.tar.gz bin/mtz2various > > bin/mtz2various hklin ... > > Any older binaries (ftp://ftp.ccp4.ac.uk/ccp4/4.0.1/) will require an > SGI or Dec/Alpha machine ;-) > > If that doesn't help I would first check that it is actually a correct > MTZ file: does the ASCII header (trailer) show up with > > strings your.mtz > > towards the end? > > Cheers > > Clemens > > On Fri, Nov 09, 2018 at 12:47:09PM +0000, Eleanor Dodson wrote: > > Anyone any idea what to do about this?? Created in 1992!! > > Seems unreadable.. > > > > No CTYP lines input for file: 1 > > Indices output even if all data items flagged "missing" > > Warning, NOT all LABOUT data lines given > > Warning: Machine stamp corrupted? Assuming native format. > > >>>>>> CCP4 library signal library_file:End of File (Error) > > > > ######################################################################## > > > > To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: > > https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1 > > -- > > *-------------------------------------------------------------- > * Clemens Vonrhein, Ph.D. vonrhein AT GlobalPhasing DOT com > * Global Phasing Ltd., Sheraton House, Castle Park > * Cambridge CB3 0AX, UK > www.globalphasing.com<http://www.globalphasing.com> > *-------------------------------------------------------------- > > ######################################################################## > > To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: > https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1 > > > > To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: > https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1 > > > > ######################################################################## > > To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: > https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1 -- Ethan A Merritt Biomolecular Structure Center, K-428 Health Sciences Bldg MS 357742, University of Washington, Seattle 98195-7742 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1
