Dear Pascal,

the EM2DAM program from the ATSAS package for SAXS 
(https://www.embl-hamburg.de/biosaxs/manuals/em2dam.html 
<https://www.embl-hamburg.de/biosaxs/manuals/em2dam.html>) can convert any EM 
envelope to a dummy-atom model in pdb format.
Also, the recent SUPALM algorithm might provide additional options as well.
http://journals.iucr.org/j/issues/2016/03/00/ap5002/ap5002.pdf 
<http://journals.iucr.org/j/issues/2016/03/00/ap5002/ap5002.pdf>


best wishes
Savvas

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> On 25 Oct 2016, at 10:00, Randy Read <rj...@cam.ac.uk> wrote:
> 
> Dear Pascal,
> 
> I'm assuming that you're talking about using the negative stain image as an 
> MR model.  I don't recall hearing of this having ever worked (though I would 
> be very interested of course if anyone has managed to do this!), but my 
> intuition is that it's not going to work.  Negative stain just gives you an 
> external shape, whereas a cryo-EM reconstruction has internal features as 
> well.
> 
> Presumably you don't have atomic models of the individual components of the 
> complex?  If you did, using those directly for MR would be my first choice, 
> but you could also consider making a pseudo-atomic model by docking them into 
> the shape of the negative stain image.  Such a model would add substantial 
> higher-resolution information.
> 
> Best wishes and good luck,
> 
> Randy Read
> 
>> On 25 Oct 2016, at 02:49, Pascal Egea <pas...@msg.ucsf.edu 
>> <mailto:pas...@msg.ucsf.edu>> wrote:
>> 
>> Dear All,
>> 
>> I would like to know if it is possible to use a low resolution EM 
>> reconstruction of a complex obtained in negative stain EM (not cryo EM) to 
>> help molecular replacement in a 4.5A resolution X-ray diffraction data set 
>> of the same complex
>> I am aware of the possibility of using low resolution cryoEM maps for MR as 
>> described in the review from Jackson et al in Nature Protocols but I was 
>> wondering if there is an intrinsically impossibility for negative stain 
>> reconstructions.
>> 
>> Any thoughts or advice will be greatly appreciated.
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> -- 
>> Pascal F. Egea, PhD
>> Assistant Professor
>> UCLA, David Geffen School of Medicine
>> Department of Biological Chemistry
>> Boyer Hall room 356
>> 611 Charles E Young Drive East
>> Los Angeles CA 90095
>> office (310)-983-3515
>> lab      (310)-983-3516
>> email     pegea at mednet.ucla.edu <http://mednet.ucla.edu/>
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