I agree with Garib that we should stop this, because nothing productive seems
to be coming out of this discussion.
I however like to clarify one thing about the comment I made about agism. I
merely intended to interpret what the age limit preference means in the context
of Government of India's policy (therefore, I used the quotation mark). I DO
NOT endorse the policy. The government stipulates an age limit for any
government job, including the job at MBU, IISC (last time I knew, it used to be
controlled by the Government, at least in the recruitment and retirement part).
Clearly, it does not confirm to the Equal Employment Opportunity (EEO) in the
US, very much like many regulations in China or in Europe do not mean anything
in the US. What works for US does not necessarily work for India.
I always wondered what the age limit means. Why should there be one? Maybe the
answer lies in the socio-economic structure of the country. Here is a country
with nearly a billion people with much less opportunity (the GDP is nowhere
comparable to that of US). The question for the law makers is how to distribute
a very few job among the most qualified people. If we are looking at two
candidates that have very similar credentials, maybe the one who accomplished
them at an earlier age is better?. I think that's what the word 'preferably'
signifies. I also think that it is somehow related to some grant agencies in
the US determining who is a 'young investigator'. Again, because the
opportunities are so few. Am I wrong?
Once again, I love the Equal Employment Opportunity (EEO) in US and that's one
of the reasons I came to US. But, do I think a discussion over CCP4bb can
change government of India' policy and India's socio-economic status? I think
not, but then, I may be a pessimist.
Best
Chitta
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From: "Garib N Murshudov" <ga...@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk>
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 5:40:23 AM
Subject: [ccp4bb]
Dear all
Could we stop at this point.
regards
Garib
On 30 Oct 2012, at 18:35, Kavyashree Manjunath wrote:
Dear Sir,
I agree to that. But I presume that this is a platform to
discuss scientific problems and not a forum to discuss or
pour out personal frustrations. There may be other channels
for such grievances but not this. I was just hoping this does
not become a social network wherein everyone are free to
express anything.
Thank you
kavya
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Dear Kavya,
given the test is written in proper English with proper grammer etc.,
I think you are actually asking for censorship. I am happy ccp4bb does
not censor such emails, be they in accordance with one's opinion or not!
Best,
Tim
On 10/30/2012 06:15 AM, Kavyashree Manjunath wrote:
Dear CCP4 users,
It is extremely sad that CCP4BB has failed to moderate/screen for
such spam mails!
Thanks kavya
Dear Friends,****
There is no need to apply to this position, we suggest. It is a
PREDETERMINED SELECTION, i.e. candidate is fixed and this
(advertisement, screening, selection board, selection and
approval) is just the procedure. ****
It does not matter whether you apply or not. If you apply and
called for interview, then you have to waste your valuable time
as well as huge travel money unless some Big Boss is fixing you
to the post.****
Interestingly Indian Institute of Science recruits and carries
faculties and trains them in such a way that it has become a
epicentre of recruitment scams across India and it make rest of
Indian Scientists/Faculties in their path of scams and CRIME.
Students also inherit the character of their boss. They do not
participate in any form of fair selection in the country. Almost
all cases they select and load many times inferior candidates
even though candidate was not seen by anybody or interviewed.
Similarly they distribute various national awards among
themselves and within their group. THEY ARE NOT ASHAMED AT
ALL.****
This is just an attempt of WASTING HUGE PUBLIC MONEY by a bunch
of crooks who are good for nothing but worst for everything.
****
Sham****
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Dr Tim Gruene
Institut fuer anorganische Chemie
Tammannstr. 4
D-37077 Goettingen
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