Awesome right up!! It's a thing I heard a couple days ago that everything is
on the screen. I think that's the reason why they implemented the 22-24"
screens so rapidly over all the locations :-)
I don't know if I'd really like the non-paper format, but I guess it's
something that has to be dealt with using paper less and less.

The troubleshooting section was not that difficult as Wendel said, but Cisco
always has to deal with too much content when they introduce a new exam. It
will get to a better quantity of content quite fast.

I'm curious for the write-up's of people who took the actual 'live' exam.

--

Regards,

Rick Mur
CCIE2 #21946 (R&S / Service Provider)
Sr. Support Engineer – IPexpert, Inc.
URL: http://www.IPexpert.com


On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 6:37 PM, Marko Milivojevic <[email protected]>wrote:

> Again, in their defence, if you *really* need those 20 minutes, you may
> have a bigger problem to begin with :-). Now, that said, I typed my last
> command 30 seconds before Proctor said "stop" ;-)
>
> On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 16:35, Mark Holloway <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I wonder if Cisco will make any changes after reading Wendell's comment
>> about shaving some of the Troubleshooting and Config
>> The short answer is that I think that the troubleshooting section was
>> attainable for a well-prepared candidate, and maybe a little too much (maybe
>> shave 10% of the tasks to be fair), but the config section was too much by
>> at least 20%. (My buddies co-authors thought roughly the same on config, and
>> maybe that the t'shooting needed to be shaved more than my 10% guesstimate.)
>>
>>
>>
>> On Oct 21, 2009, at 9:28 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>>
>> Good point! They do that for ccna and ccnp to see what the exam "feels
>> like" as well.
>>
>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>> ------------------------------
>> *From: * Mark Holloway <[email protected]>
>> *Date: *Wed, 21 Oct 2009 09:21:11 -0700
>> *To: *nicholas golden<[email protected]>
>> *Cc: *OSL CCIE-SP<[email protected]>; GS CCIE-Lab<
>> [email protected]>; Marko Milivojevic<[email protected]>
>> *Subject: *Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Some More v4.0 Information
>>
>> I think Cisco should offer a tutorial on their main web site which goes
>> over the basics of the new GUI system so anyone can see it 24/7.  Cisco
>> gives you an idea/feel for the what the CCDE "practical" is like on their
>> web site, why not the new CCIE?
>>
>> On Oct 21, 2009, at 9:03 AM, nicholas golden wrote:
>>
>> I just got done reading that article, I pasted my response to it on his
>> website below.
>>
>>
>> So I have a few more things to add/ask. Wendell goes into the "learning
>> curve" of the GUI interface, and says there is NO tutorial beforehand so you
>> lose some time trying to get used to it. What do you think about this? Do
>> you think it's worth doing diagrams still? Also, what I worry about is
>> speed. I am working on my speed, and I am moderately quick but I am thorough
>> as well so obviously I have to work on that as well. Who here is a little
>> stressed on this?
>>
>>
>> Michael Lipsey, I know you are taking your lab soon what are your thoughts
>> (just a few days away I know)?
>>
>>
>> Anyone else? I am at least 6 months away from a lab attempt, going to do
>> my written by next month and by time I get to the lab it will have time to
>> "cook" and I'll get more input.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Nick
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> My response to Wendell:
>>
>> "Hey Wendell, this is great feedback. I have heard of the elusive lab book
>> disappearing in favor of the new "electronic" lab book. I hope I can get
>> around that. Before, you could put a piece of paper above the actual lab
>> sheets and "trace" out a topology and quickly put labels on it.
>>
>> So now I wonder if it's worth even making what I call a "summary diagram"
>> - meaning I like to see everything that's going on what routers are
>> connected to what switches, the interfaces and a little about what RP's are
>> on there and what's going on in the background. I realize this may take more
>> time now I have to fumble with the GUI.
>>
>> I am preparing heavily for the v4.0 written as we speak so I am around 6
>> months + from a lab attempt. I wonder how they will tweak it or if this is
>> the "final" version?
>>
>> Thanks again, awesome article and you are the man.
>>
>> Nick
>> Future CCIE"
>>
>>
>> --- On *Wed, 10/21/09, Marko Milivojevic <[email protected]>* wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: Marko Milivojevic <[email protected]>
>> Subject: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Some More v4.0 Information
>> To: "OSL CCIE-SP" <[email protected]>, "GS CCIE-Lab" <
>> [email protected]>
>> Date: Wednesday, October 21, 2009, 8:41 AM
>>
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> I just wanted to share an interesting write-up on v4.0 by Wendell
>> Odom: http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/46561
>>
>> User interface thing is ... a bit unnerving.
>>
>> --
>> Marko
>> CCIE #18427 (SP)
>> My network blog: http://cisco.markom.info/
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