Again, in their defence, if you *really* need those 20 minutes, you may have
a bigger problem to begin with :-). Now, that said, I typed my last command
30 seconds before Proctor said "stop" ;-)
On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 16:35, Mark Holloway <[email protected]> wrote:

> I wonder if Cisco will make any changes after reading Wendell's comment
> about shaving some of the Troubleshooting and Config
> The short answer is that I think that the troubleshooting section was
> attainable for a well-prepared candidate, and maybe a little too much (maybe
> shave 10% of the tasks to be fair), but the config section was too much by
> at least 20%. (My buddies co-authors thought roughly the same on config, and
> maybe that the t'shooting needed to be shaved more than my 10% guesstimate.)
>
>
>
> On Oct 21, 2009, at 9:28 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>
> Good point! They do that for ccna and ccnp to see what the exam "feels
> like" as well.
>
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
> ------------------------------
> *From: * Mark Holloway <[email protected]>
> *Date: *Wed, 21 Oct 2009 09:21:11 -0700
> *To: *nicholas golden<[email protected]>
> *Cc: *OSL CCIE-SP<[email protected]>; GS CCIE-Lab<
> [email protected]>; Marko Milivojevic<[email protected]>
> *Subject: *Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Some More v4.0 Information
>
> I think Cisco should offer a tutorial on their main web site which goes
> over the basics of the new GUI system so anyone can see it 24/7.  Cisco
> gives you an idea/feel for the what the CCDE "practical" is like on their
> web site, why not the new CCIE?
>
> On Oct 21, 2009, at 9:03 AM, nicholas golden wrote:
>
> I just got done reading that article, I pasted my response to it on his
> website below.
>
>
> So I have a few more things to add/ask. Wendell goes into the "learning
> curve" of the GUI interface, and says there is NO tutorial beforehand so you
> lose some time trying to get used to it. What do you think about this? Do
> you think it's worth doing diagrams still? Also, what I worry about is
> speed. I am working on my speed, and I am moderately quick but I am thorough
> as well so obviously I have to work on that as well. Who here is a little
> stressed on this?
>
>
> Michael Lipsey, I know you are taking your lab soon what are your thoughts
> (just a few days away I know)?
>
>
> Anyone else? I am at least 6 months away from a lab attempt, going to do my
> written by next month and by time I get to the lab it will have time to
> "cook" and I'll get more input.
>
>
>
> -Nick
>
>
>
>
> My response to Wendell:
>
> "Hey Wendell, this is great feedback. I have heard of the elusive lab book
> disappearing in favor of the new "electronic" lab book. I hope I can get
> around that. Before, you could put a piece of paper above the actual lab
> sheets and "trace" out a topology and quickly put labels on it.
>
> So now I wonder if it's worth even making what I call a "summary diagram" -
> meaning I like to see everything that's going on what routers are connected
> to what switches, the interfaces and a little about what RP's are on there
> and what's going on in the background. I realize this may take more time now
> I have to fumble with the GUI.
>
> I am preparing heavily for the v4.0 written as we speak so I am around 6
> months + from a lab attempt. I wonder how they will tweak it or if this is
> the "final" version?
>
> Thanks again, awesome article and you are the man.
>
> Nick
> Future CCIE"
>
>
> --- On *Wed, 10/21/09, Marko Milivojevic <[email protected]>* wrote:
>
>
> From: Marko Milivojevic <[email protected]>
> Subject: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Some More v4.0 Information
> To: "OSL CCIE-SP" <[email protected]>, "GS CCIE-Lab" <
> [email protected]>
> Date: Wednesday, October 21, 2009, 8:41 AM
>
> Hi guys,
>
> I just wanted to share an interesting write-up on v4.0 by Wendell
> Odom: http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/46561
>
> User interface thing is ... a bit unnerving.
>
> --
> Marko
> CCIE #18427 (SP)
> My network blog: http://cisco.markom.info/
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