I wonder if Cisco will make any changes after reading Wendell's comment about shaving some of the Troubleshooting and Config

The short answer is that I think that the troubleshooting section was attainable for a well-prepared candidate, and maybe a little too much (maybe shave 10% of the tasks to be fair), but the config section was too much by at least 20%. (My buddies co-authors thought roughly the same on config, and maybe that the t'shooting needed to be shaved more than my 10% guesstimate.)



On Oct 21, 2009, at 9:28 AM, [email protected] wrote:

Good point! They do that for ccna and ccnp to see what the exam "feels like" as well.
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From: Mark Holloway <[email protected]>
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 09:21:11 -0700
To: nicholas golden<[email protected]>
Cc: OSL CCIE-SP<[email protected]>; GS CCIE-Lab<[email protected] >; Marko Milivojevic<[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Some More v4.0 Information

I think Cisco should offer a tutorial on their main web site which goes over the basics of the new GUI system so anyone can see it 24/7. Cisco gives you an idea/feel for the what the CCDE "practical" is like on their web site, why not the new CCIE?


On Oct 21, 2009, at 9:03 AM, nicholas golden wrote:

I just got done reading that article, I pasted my response to it on his website below.



So I have a few more things to add/ask. Wendell goes into the "learning curve" of the GUI interface, and says there is NO tutorial beforehand so you lose some time trying to get used to it. What do you think about this? Do you think it's worth doing diagrams still? Also, what I worry about is speed. I am working on my speed, and I am moderately quick but I am thorough as well so obviously I have to work on that as well. Who here is a little stressed on this?



Michael Lipsey, I know you are taking your lab soon what are your thoughts (just a few days away I know)?



Anyone else? I am at least 6 months away from a lab attempt, going to do my written by next month and by time I get to the lab it will have time to "cook" and I'll get more input.




-Nick







My response to Wendell:

"Hey Wendell, this is great feedback. I have heard of the elusive lab book disappearing in favor of the new "electronic" lab book. I hope I can get around that. Before, you could put a piece of paper above the actual lab sheets and "trace" out a topology and quickly put labels on it.

So now I wonder if it's worth even making what I call a "summary diagram" - meaning I like to see everything that's going on what routers are connected to what switches, the interfaces and a little about what RP's are on there and what's going on in the background. I realize this may take more time now I have to fumble with the GUI.

I am preparing heavily for the v4.0 written as we speak so I am around 6 months + from a lab attempt. I wonder how they will tweak it or if this is the "final" version?

Thanks again, awesome article and you are the man.

Nick
Future CCIE"



--- On Wed, 10/21/09, Marko Milivojevic <[email protected]> wrote:

From: Marko Milivojevic <[email protected]>
Subject: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Some More v4.0 Information
To: "OSL CCIE-SP" <[email protected]>, "GS CCIE-Lab" <[email protected] >
Date: Wednesday, October 21, 2009, 8:41 AM

Hi guys,

I just wanted to share an interesting write-up on v4.0 by Wendell
Odom: http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/46561

User interface thing is ... a bit unnerving.

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Marko
CCIE #18427 (SP)
My network blog: http://cisco.markom.info/
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