On Oct 10, 2023, at 9:38 AM, K5BOU via BVARC <bvarc@bvarc.org> wrote:
Fox, KW6FOX, well say!
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K5BOU-PhilippeBoucaumont
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#77940
*From:* BVARC <bvarc-boun...@bvarc.org> *On Behalf Of *Fox Danger
Piacenti via BVARC
*Sent:* Tuesday, October 10, 2023 9:27 AM
*To:* BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB <bvarc@bvarc.org>; anthony
moro <w5li...@gmail.com>
*Cc:* Fox Danger Piacenti <kelke...@gmail.com>
*Subject:* Re: [BVARC] Brews with BVARC this Tuesday!
Hi, all.
I'm a fairly new member of this club, having joined only a month or
two ago. I went to last month's Brew's with BVARC event as my first
intro event to the club. Seemed like a fun way to get to know some
folks and have a good time.
And it was exactly that. I loved getting to hang with club members
and the offerings at the bar. I'm a bit confused from some of the
correspondence here. Has anything actually happened that was a
problem at these events or is this a lot of speculation about issues
that *could* happen? I don't much patience for the latter. If it's
the former, it's fair to discuss how to address the issue. If
something happened that evening, it must have happened while I wasn't
looking or after I left.
I expect club members to be adults. I expect people to make their own
decisions. I also am quite aware that sometimes people have
difficulties with addiction and specific substances.
We're a very large club. That leaves room for diversity of events. It
also means we're more likely to have some members who aren't a good
fit for events. But if we actually come across a member we discover
is behaving irresponsibly at these get-togethers, I do expect those
running them to intervene. Worrying about whose legal responsibility
it is comes as a secondary concern (though still a concern!): I
expect the event runners to address behavior problems and let people
who can't behave themselves know they aren't allowed back.
I'm telling everyone here as a new club member I found the event fun,
I saw no irresponsible behavior and I had a great time meeting people
and putting some faces to callsigns. I suggest anyone who doesn't
like events at bars not come, and if they have particular concern
about a members welfare if they were to attend, to let the event
runner know about it. From there, we can judge actions.
If anyone had a specific incident at the event that they felt was
handled poorly and not addressed, I think that's important to bring
up here. Otherwise I'd suggest people live and let live.
Best,
-Fox, KW6FOX
On 10/10/23 08:59, Eddie Runner via BVARC wrote:
oh i read your email. but i wanted my thoughts to go to the club.
not just you.
i usually try to get the membership involved. at least thier
brains thinking about some of the fun stuff that goes on behind
the scenes.
we need a big turnout for the november club elections! we
rarely have more than one person running for office. should be fun.
as far as Brews with bvarc. months ago i was one of the only
ones to speak up with my feelings on the subject.
now that others are thinking about it and sharing their thoughts
you cant say they are causing problems. they are club members
and they are allowed (encouraged) to share opinions.
if members sharing their views are considered problems then we
should be very carefull who we vote for.
Eddie NU5K
Sent from my iphone
On Oct 10, 2023, at 8:10 AM, anthony moro <w5li...@gmail.com>
<mailto:w5li...@gmail.com> wrote:
As you say to me all the time ( you did not read all of my
email). I said at the end of my last response that if you had
any more questions or comments email me directly. I am not
going to answer or say anything bad about the board on the
reflector. As stated in my last response you can email me
about the reason I left the board. I just want the club to
enjoy the event and don't want club members to be
causing problems about an event that both Kori and Mike
put together.It's interesting that the problem goes away a
few months, and a month later it's right back with more
people causing problems. It's like somehow they were told
about only the bad not any of the good. For a while there
were no problems and now the past few months there is a
problem with the event. I mentioned the club
president (Mike), because he talked to Kori about the event
and said, (go with it). So I don't understand how now he or
other club members have a problem with the event.
On Tue, Oct 10, 2023 at 6:13 AM Eddie Runner
<eddie.run...@yahoo.com> wrote:
MY post isnt political and has nothing to do with elections,
my concern was the appearance of the website...
I wasnt mudslinging, I didnt even mention anyones name..
I didnt see anyone mentioning names till you mentioned
Mikes....
You (Anthony) mentioned our president about 3 times..
(that is mud slinging)
Why did you drop from the board when there is only a
couple of months left
on your board of directors term... Your my buddy, I
would do anything for you
but I am calling you a cry baby.. probably related to
Kori running against Mike.
I guess your buddy Kori is running against Mike for
president this term..
Mike has been a pretty damn good president for a very
long time, he has
always been there for our club when no one else has
been.. When no one else
will, Mikey is always there.. Club is huge, money in the
bank, food at meetings,
amazing hamfest, thank you Mike !!!!
Time for a change? Sure, Maybe!
Kori is very energetic and very popular in the club..
He is a pretty smart guy.
and would likely make a good president .. Will he be
willing to put as much into
BVARC as Mike does..??
Time will tell.
Eddie (NU5K)
it is our club, speak your mind..
On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 08:17:45 PM CDT, anthony
moro <w5li...@gmail.com> wrote:
I have been thinking all day about this. I think this is
a way of throwing mud during the elections. This is not
fair to either side. So everyone knows I have left the
board for this very sort of stuff. I think this club
needs to stop being divided and think about what's best
for the club. Acting like this about an event the club
president allowed to happen is not what's best for the
club. I think that we need to leave the name of the event
alone and stop acting like everybody in the club
doesn't drink at all. I say this and also tell y'all
about my past. I was given probation for my third DWI.
While on probation I found a great hobby, and all of yall
have been great friends to me. I know that at least one
person in the club has a few beers after work. There is
nothing wrong with that. So saying that, we should leave
this topic alone and think and look to the future of this
club. If you feel the same way I feel then think real
hard about what is really going on in the club and see
how we as a club can pull together and put an end to this
click kind of behavior. We should work together, not
against each other. Just like some of yall dont get up
for the 6:30am breakfast or leave work to go to the Lunch
Bunch do the same with this event. If you don't have the
time and would like to be with the family instead then
don't go and keep your comments about an event the club
president allowed to yourself. I am appalled with the
behavior of some people that chose to act this way. I
know yall are better than this. Now let's get back to
having fun in this hobby as one of the largest clubs in
texas, and show people what being a great HAM is about.
If you have any questions or comments about what I said
in this email, please email me directly. I am willing to
talk to yall about how I feel about how the club members
are acting about an event that has been going on for
almost a year now. Also remember the club president
allowed this event after talking to Kori the vice
president before he became vice president.
I am sorry if this sounded like I am venting. But I am
just tired of all the mud slinging in the club.
On Mon, Oct 9, 2023 at 1:22 PM Eddie Runner via BVARC
<bvarc@bvarc.org> wrote:
You guys are finally paying attention!!
I enjoyed the BwBvarc the couple of times I went
(fellowship), even though
I am not a drinker...
I complained when we started advertising it on the
website as a BVARC sanctioned event...
Being that we have always tried to put forward a
welcoming face and tried to attract young
folks and even children and parents to our club...
No one paid any attention to me back then.
PLUS, I am sure some of our members have or have had
problems with booze....
Some have had DUIs, some are recovering...!
Some of you know my son,
he has been a ham (since 10 years old) and is now
43yrs.. He has been an addict
for many years.. Although I like to share with him
ham radio things, like the hamfest and so on.
I would be afraid to even mention BwBVARC to him.
I didn't go, but someone mentioned to me that the
LAST BwBVARC had CBD beers
which were noted with warnings that they could affect
the outcome of a drug test.
Glad you guys are finally paying attention!!
Eddie Runner (NU5K)
On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 01:06:47 PM CDT, JP
Pritchard via BVARC <bvarc@bvarc.org> wrote:
Even if the club turns out to be protected from legal
liability, I'm not sure we want our club name to be
associated with a possible DUI traffic tragedy. Just
a thought.
JP, K5JPP
On 10/09/2023 12:48 PM CDT Rick Hiller via BVARC
<bvarc@bvarc.org> wrote:
The promoted title “Brews with BVARC” leans
toward making it a de facto, sanctioned event,
and this doesn't sit well with some folks.
By W5RH.
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On Oct 9, 2023, at 11:48 AM, N5LNK - Sean
Linkenheimer via BVARC <bvarc@bvarc.org> wrote:
Philippe,
Thank you I had no idea this was a concern
for some. A few years back I was required to
be certified with TABC for the The Katy Rice
Harvest Festival. I am a Past Grand Knight
and former District Deputy of the Knights of
Columbus and our council 6950 served beer for
the Rice Harvest Festival. Because our
council was engaged in serving alcohol we had
the responsibility to not serve patrons past
the legal limit and were trained how to spot
when someone was intoxicated. That being
said, the Brews with BVARC event, although a
gathering of members at an establishment that
serves alcohol, is in no way the same as
our club serving alcohol to members or the
general public. I believe the club having a
Brews with BVARC event in many ways is no
different than any of the other membership
gatherings; afterall it is about comradery. I
have not read the clubs bylaws but if there
was something governing this sort of
gathering it would be found in the bylaws.
73 de
N5LNK - Sean
On Mon, Oct 9, 2023 at 11:10 AM K5BOU via
BVARC <bvarc@bvarc.org> wrote:
In the past few weeks, I heard some
members talk about the legal aspect of
having events at the bar/brewery serving
alcohol under the BVARC umbrella. Because
of the nature of my job, working in the
restaurant/Hotel industry, I have some
contacts at TABC and ask who will be
responsible if some members get
intoxicated during a club event at the
restaurant or bar. TABC clarifies that
The restaurant/bar with TABC licenses
that sells and serves alcohol to an
intoxicated patron is responsible.
I hope this helps.
I hope you have a great week.
K5BOU-PhilippeBoucaumont
Houston*|*Texas*|*USA*|*
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#77940
*From:*BVARC <bvarc-boun...@bvarc.org>
*On Behalf Of *Kori Rahman via BVARC
*Sent:* Monday, October 9, 2023 12:58 AM
*To:* BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB
<bvarc@bvarc.org>
*Cc:* Kori Rahman <kori...@gmail.com>
*Subject:* [BVARC] Brews with BVARC this
Tuesday!
Hello everyone!
This is another reminder of our Brews
with BVARC event coming up this Tuesday
October 10th at 6:30pm. We will be at
Holler Brewing Company in Houston. Please
come out if you can. There's always great
conversation and camaraderie out at these
events, and we hope you can join us this
time around. Give us a call on *146.520
MHz FM Simplex* if you need directions
when nearby or if you have trouble
finding our table.
Please check out their website
(Hollerbeer.com
<https://hollerbeer.com/>) to see their
selection of beers and for information
about their brewery. They promise to have
"pop-up chefs" on-site every day so there
should be an opportunity to grab some
delicious food as well. As always, arrive
when you can, be safe, be responsible,
and let's have fun!
*October Brews with BVARC:**
*When:**
Tuesday October 10th at 6:30pm
*Where:*
Holler Brewing Co.
2206 Edwards St. Suite A
Houston, TX 77007
Hope to see you there! Thanks and 73!
*Kori Rahman, WX5KR**
**Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club*
*Vice-President and Club Call Sign KK5W
Trustee**
*Cell: (770) 298 8516
kori...@gmail.com <mailto:kori...@gmail.com>
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