>-----Original Message----- >From: Michael Harney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 2:36 PM >To: Killer Bs Discussion >Subject: Re: L3: World cancer death rates have increased... > > > >From: "Chad Cooper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >> >-----Original Message----- >> >From: Kevin Tarr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 1:32 PM >> >To: Killer Bs Discussion >> >Subject: Re: L3: World cancer death rates have increased...
> >The cycle continues. Far earlier than expected. Apperantly I >can never >speek ill of eating meat, not even in regards to health... >hell, never speek >of food at all as it is always brought back to this discussion which >invariably ends in flaming. I would point out the flaw in >your logic, but >what would be the point? Nobody listens, it just comes back >to it again, >and the cycle continues. I have already gone rounds with you on this, and really did not want to get into it again (learned my lesson the first or second time). I honestly have NOTHING against Vegetarianism. I, in fact, curbed my normal inclination to fight you on this. What started my rant is the constant bashing of meat as a heathy, beneficial food item. Because it involves the killing of amimals, extremist will attempt to cut down meat scientifically, in order to indirectly provide some support to win an ethical argument. I see a lot of generalizations, and I suppose I respond back with a bunch of generalizations, in defense of meat. Its childish. My real agenda is to stop people from using science as a bludgeon to support an ethical position. Admit that you do feel self-rightous as a vegetarian. I think I would be as well. You most likely benefit from it,as I probably would as well. This does not mean that it is better. It does not mean that an onmivorious diet is better. Science does not have a clear cut answer to this question, nor does it help much in the getting to the ethical truth. If you feel threatened from me, it is I am attacking the meme that because I eat meat, I am somewhat inferior, or lacking in common sense, dumb or all of the above. You may be promoting this meme, and that is a question only you can answer. >If you genuinely want to discuss this topic, reply to this and >say that you >have a genuine desire to discuss the topic rationally and >intelligently and >I will. I don't think it can be done, in the same way science cannot tell us what the best diet is (yet). If you want to discuss the ethical dilemma's this is easier to do, and I am open to this. To start, it does bother me animals ar killed to provide sausage for me in the morning. I still eat meat. Does that make me a bad person? But if this is just and attempt at justification (or worse, a >deliberate attempt to troll me), your efforts are >unneccessary/wasted on me >now, so don't bother. Michael, we clearly lie in opposite poles politically, but I think we share many common visions. This can cause conflict. I truly try to understand your position, and feel bound to be critical, because I think it may broaden your perspective on your position. This broadening can reflect back to me, allow me to see that which I resist seeing. Don't post to a topic unless you have a genuine >desire to discuss it. Mocking posts only lead to flame wars >and killfiles. Its not mocking, its straight beligerence! ;-) That's why I am the Nerd from Hell. Nerd From Hell > >Michael Harney >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >"Man had always assumed that he was more intelligent than >dolphins because >he had achieved so much... the wheel, New York, wars, and so >on, whilst all >the dolphins had ever done was muck about in the water having >a good time. >But conversely the dolphins believed themselves to be more >intelligent than >man for precisely the same reasons." - Douglas Adams > >_______________________________________________ >http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l > _______________________________________________ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
