--- Dan Minette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The US numbers have shifted towards going in without
> the UN, but the trend
> polls that I have seen in other countries have
> indicated a firming up of
> the opinion that they will approve of a war only
> with a UN mandate. I know
> that Gautam is fairly optimistic that a quick US
> victory will change
> opinions.  I'm not so sanguine.  I can see Tony
> Blair  having to back off
> involvement in the war because he could lose his job
> if he forces the
> issue.  I can see the Spanish government falling too
> if they support us too
> strongly.  I think France is playing this
> possibility for all its worth.
> 
> Dan M.

Me too.  I do think that _British_ opinion will change
with a quick victory - has there ever, in all of
history, been an unpopular victorious war?   But I
don't think French public opinion will change either
way.

Note, btw, that this was, in my opinion, the single
largest mistake made by the Bush Administration, and
it goes all the way back to the early days of
Afghanistan.  The Administration, at the behest of the
Pentagon, refused France's offer of military aide, for
the good reason that France's military was so far
behind the American one that this would actually be a
hindrance, not a help.  This is a classic example of a
situation where military necessity should be overrided
by strategic (i.e. political) concerns.  Before World
War I, General Joffre was asked how many British
troops he needed to defend France.  He replied, "One,
and we will put ensure that he is shot."  His point
was the involving _any_ British troops in combat
would, almost certainly, bring wholehearted British
support fairly soon.  I don't know if France's
hostility to the United States is so deeply ingrained
that having American and French soldiers fighting side
by side in Afghanistan wouldn't have helped, but it
should have been tried.

I also wonder how different things would look if
Schroeder had lost in Germany.  France, isolated in
Europe, would not, I think, have acted in this
fashion.  Without a Franco-German Axis, they are
nothing.  World opinion would look a lot different if
this was all of the governments of the West, plus
Japan and Australia (culturally, a member of the West)
were standing together in this situation - something
that would have happened, I think, if the CDU were
running Germany right now.

Gautam

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