Hi,

On 11/7/2006 6:13 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Arno Lehmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
...
>>Anyway, what I'd suggest for you (keep in mind I would have to know more 
>>about your setup) would be to run backups either to disk - an external 
>>subsystem, configured as RAID5, from a reliable manufacturer - or use a 
>>tape autochanger. Your choice will depend on your available backup 
>>window, network throughput during backup time, storage device speed, and 
>>your needs regarding archival time, restore time, and ease of 
>>administration.
> 
> 
> A little more about my setup:
> 4 machines, 3 winxp pro heavily loaded for video graphics work mostly
> with nearly all the main adobe tools.  The fourth machine is my linux
> desktop which doesn't figure large in the video work but is on gigabit
> ethernet with the others.  And would not really need to be involved in
> the bacula work.  Relying on rsnapshot for the linux os and small
> amount of other data.
> 
> What ever I finally end up backing up with, it would most likely be to
> disk not tape just for the simplicity and availablitity.

You'll need lots of disk space then.

> You mentioned raid5.  I've been meaning to study up on the different
> raid setups but currently know zero about it.  Why raid5?  Is it
> particulary well suited in some way?

It is, and I think it has been explained ok.

> A typical kind of need I would have would be during a project to have
> daily full backup and maybe 4hr incrementals or something along that
> line.  That would pile up a hefty amount of data very soon so maybe
> not quite that intense but close.

Well, with your huge video files I guess you might reach about one TB a
day during production phases... depending on the actual project size, of
course, but a few hundred GB of video data can easily happen. And you
might end up having huge files newly created / modified, that would end
up in your 4hourly incrementals, I guess.

> I do plan to either buy prebuilt/configured NAS which could be the
> destination or create a linux home NAS with gentoo linux running as
> many SATA discs as one OS can muster ... well something like 6-8 I
> guess giving about 1 terabyte of space.   That would not all be bacula
> destination of coures but would be holding all kinds of source
> material etc.

Iy you want to use a self made storage device you could simply add all
these disks to the Bacula server as this wouldn't be limited by network
throughput.

When using a NAS system you should also implement a second gigabit
network between the SD and the storage server.

> Long as we are at it maybe you have some suggestions about the NAS
> stuff too.  I'm looking at this chart:
> 
> http://www.tomsnetworking.com/nas/charts/index.html?chart=135
> 
> and thinking the Thecus setup is so much faster than any of the
> rest...

I don't think speed is the most important thing to consider. Rather,
look for something that has a history of running rock-stable, that has
the necessary management capabilities - you really want to be notified
of disk problems as soon as possible! - and that can be easily operated.
For example, even if you are not available yourself, someone in your
business must be able to deactivate a failing disk, to activate a spre
disk, and to make sure the array is rebuilt.

Using a shell on a linux system and calling the appropriate commands is
definitely not something to be done by your average video operator :-)

Also, make sure your RAID system allows hot-swapping of disks, which is
not simple on a standard PC-based server. Otherwise, to swap a failing
disk, you have to power-down your storage server. Using hot swapable
systems, the process of swapping disks and recreating the array can be
done during operations. It will affect speed, but things will continue.

Finally, make sure you have enough spare disks available, and don't use
cheap desktop disk.

Arno
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IT-Service Lehmann                    [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Arno Lehmann                  http://www.its-lehmann.de



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