On Friday 10 November 2006 00:32, Arno Lehmann wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On 11/9/2006 1:55 AM, Bill Moran wrote:
> > On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 18:49:30 -0600
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >>Arno Lehmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Currently, the windows FD is running stable and reliable IMO.
> >>>Unfortunately, I have some problems with VSS backups (windows' name for 
> >>>volume snapshots) where files can't be accessed when I do a snapshot but 
> >>>can be accessed without VSS.
> >>>
> >>>For backups of data files not in use during backup operations, this 
> >>>should not be a problem.
> >>
> >>I'm not sure I'm following you here.  Are you saying I would not be
> >>able to backup files that were in use?  Or just not in some special
> >>circumstances...?
> 
> Well, kind of special circumstances. Bill explained it fine enough, I
> think, but...
> 
> >>I'm not sure what role VSS plays or when it might be used but I would
> >>need to routinely be able to backup files that are in use.
> > 
> > 
> > Depends on your definition of "in use".  If the system has the file locked 
for
> > writing, you'll have to enable VSS to get a backup of it while it's write
> > locked.  If the application has it open read-only, you'll get a good 
backup
> > either way.
> 
> The most common problem files are, in my experience, outlook mailboxes:
> They are large, they change a lot, and they are usually locked.
> 
> With "normal" data files you wouldn't have problems, UNLESS these files
> are written by the application while Bacula reads them. I don't know if
> Bacula locks the files it reads (in that case your application would get
> an error) or if it simply stores inconsistent data (which is the common
> Unix / linux behaviour).
> 
> > On the flip side, I've been using VSS to back up Windows workstations for 
a
> > few months now with no problems, and all files are able to be backed up no
> > matter how they're opened.
> 
> Well, it worked here for a long time, too, but then, without any
> apparent reason, I got problems with VSS. I started to discuss that on
> bacula-devel, but since the development FD doesn't even run stable here
> there's not much I can do to debug this :-(

Yes I agree :-(.   

However, will you permit me to play Microsoft support for a few minutes? 
Microsoft support: "Reload your operating system from the CD, and call me back 
if it still does not work" :-)

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