Hi,

On 11/10/2006 10:00 AM, Robert Nelson wrote:
> Actually I've sent him a number of things to try as well as debug binaries
> but he never replied with the results of running them.

Oops, I'm quite sure I sent the results to you.
Admittedly, my mail provider seems to get blacklisted more and more 
often these days, so it's possible these mails were not delivered (which 
I usually notice) or your mail server or client considered them to be 
spam... I'll resend some of my results immediately.

Arno

> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kern
> Sibbald
> Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 12:37 AM
> To: bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Cc: Arno Lehmann
> Subject: Re: [Bacula-users] Is Bacula for me: Videography business backups
> 
> On Friday 10 November 2006 00:32, Arno Lehmann wrote:
> 
>>Hi,
>>
>>On 11/9/2006 1:55 AM, Bill Moran wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 18:49:30 -0600
>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Arno Lehmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Currently, the windows FD is running stable and reliable IMO.
>>>>>Unfortunately, I have some problems with VSS backups (windows' name for
> 
> 
>>>>>volume snapshots) where files can't be accessed when I do a snapshot
> 
> but 
> 
>>>>>can be accessed without VSS.
>>>>>
>>>>>For backups of data files not in use during backup operations, this 
>>>>>should not be a problem.
>>>>
>>>>I'm not sure I'm following you here.  Are you saying I would not be
>>>>able to backup files that were in use?  Or just not in some special
>>>>circumstances...?
>>
>>Well, kind of special circumstances. Bill explained it fine enough, I
>>think, but...
>>
>>
>>>>I'm not sure what role VSS plays or when it might be used but I would
>>>>need to routinely be able to backup files that are in use.
>>>
>>>
>>>Depends on your definition of "in use".  If the system has the file
> 
> locked 
> for
> 
>>>writing, you'll have to enable VSS to get a backup of it while it's
> 
> write
> 
>>>locked.  If the application has it open read-only, you'll get a good 
> 
> backup
> 
>>>either way.
>>
>>The most common problem files are, in my experience, outlook mailboxes:
>>They are large, they change a lot, and they are usually locked.
>>
>>With "normal" data files you wouldn't have problems, UNLESS these files
>>are written by the application while Bacula reads them. I don't know if
>>Bacula locks the files it reads (in that case your application would get
>>an error) or if it simply stores inconsistent data (which is the common
>>Unix / linux behaviour).
>>
>>
>>>On the flip side, I've been using VSS to back up Windows workstations
> 
> for 
> a
> 
>>>few months now with no problems, and all files are able to be backed up
> 
> no
> 
>>>matter how they're opened.
>>
>>Well, it worked here for a long time, too, but then, without any
>>apparent reason, I got problems with VSS. I started to discuss that on
>>bacula-devel, but since the development FD doesn't even run stable here
>>there's not much I can do to debug this :-(
> 
> 
> Yes I agree :-(.   
> 
> However, will you permit me to play Microsoft support for a few minutes? 
> Microsoft support: "Reload your operating system from the CD, and call me
> back 
> if it still does not work" :-)
> 
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