Murray, Authors,

Thanks for your review and reply Murray - we have noted your approval on the 
AUTH48 page. 

Authors, we have received all of the needed approvals for publication.  
However, this document normatively references RFC-to-be 9694 
<draft-ietf-mediaman-toplevel>, so it will not be published until RFC-to-be 
9694 completes AUTH48 as well. 

Thank you,
RFC Editor/sg


> On Feb 20, 2025, at 8:09 AM, Murray S. Kucherawy <superu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Sorry for missing this.
> 
> I've reviewed the full AUTH48 diff, and it looks good to me.  Approved for 
> publication.
> 
> -MSK, ART AD
> 
> On Tue, Feb 11, 2025 at 11:24 AM Sandy Ginoza <sgin...@staff.rfc-editor.org> 
> wrote:
> Hi Yeshwant, Murray,
> 
> We are waiting on the following before continuing with publication: 
> 
> 1. Murray’s approval.  Murray, would you please review the changes in the 
> AUTH48 diff and let us know if you approve?  They are likely ok, but I’d 
> prefer to err on the side of caution.  
> 
> > > 
> > >> AUTH48 diffs (highlights recent updates): 
> > >>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9695-auth48diff.html
> > >>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9695-auth48rfcdiff.html (side by 
> > >> side)
> 
> 
> 
> 2. RFC-to-be 9694 to complete AUTH48 (see 
> https://www.rfc-editor.org/staff/auth48_edit.php?docnum=9694).  This document 
> normatively references RFC 9694, so it cannot be published until RFC 9694 is 
> also ready to be published.
> 
> Please let us know if you have any questions.
> 
> Thanks,
> RFC Editor/sg
> 
> 
> > On Feb 6, 2025, at 10:01 PM, Yeshwant Muthusamy <yeshw...@yeshvik.com> 
> > wrote:
> > 
> > Hi Rebecca,
> > 
> > What is the status of this document? Are we still waiting on Murray's 
> > approval?
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Yeshwant
> > 
> > 
> > Yeshwant Muthusamy, Ph.D.
> > Owner and Principal
> > Yeshvik Solutions, LLC
> > www.yeshvik.com
> > +1 469-854-9836
> > yeshw...@yeshvik.com
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Thu, Jan 30, 2025 at 11:23 AM Rebecca VanRheenen 
> > <rvanrhee...@staff.rfc-editor.org> wrote:
> > Hi Yeshwant, Chris, and Murray*
> > 
> > I’ll be helping with this document this week as Sandy is on PTO. 
> > 
> > Yeshwant - Thanks for checking in about the status of the document. You are 
> > correct that we have approvals from both you and Chris (I just forwarded 
> > the approval from Chris to the AUTH48 archive). We are now waiting for 
> > approval from Murray (AD). See the AUTH48 status page at 
> > <https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9695>.
> > 
> > *Murray - Please review the following and let us know if you approve:
> > 
> > > Hi Murray,
> > > 
> > > Would you please review the changes in the AUTH48 diff and let us know if 
> > > you approve?  They are likely ok, but I’d prefer to err on the side of 
> > > caution.  
> > > 
> > >> AUTH48 diffs (highlights recent updates): 
> > >>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9695-auth48diff.html
> > >>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9695-auth48rfcdiff.html (side by 
> > >> side)
> > 
> > Files:
> >   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9695.xml
> >   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9695.txt
> >   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9695.pdf
> >   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9695.html
> > 
> > AUTH48 diffs (highlights recent updates): 
> >   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9695-auth48diff.html
> >   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9695-auth48rfcdiff.html (side by 
> > side)
> > 
> > Comprehensive diffs: 
> >   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9695-diff.html
> >   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9695-rfcdiff.html (side by side)
> > 
> > AUTH48 page for this document:
> >    https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9695
> > 
> > Thank you, 
> > RFC Editor/rv
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > On Jan 29, 2025, at 8:00 AM, Yeshwant Muthusamy <yeshw...@yeshvik.com> 
> > > wrote:
> > > 
> > > Hi Sandy,
> > > 
> > > Chris tells me that he has sent you his approval. Are we good to go, or 
> > > are you still waiting on other approvals?
> > > 
> > > Thanks,
> > > Yeshwant
> > > 
> > > Yeshwant Muthusamy, Ph.D.
> > > Owner and Principal
> > > Yeshvik Solutions, LLC
> > > www.yeshvik.com
> > > +1 469-854-9836
> > > yeshw...@yeshvik.com
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Sat, Jan 25, 2025 at 3:44 PM Sandy Ginoza 
> > > <sgin...@staff.rfc-editor.org> wrote:
> > > Hi Yeshwant,
> > > 
> > > Apologies for my delayed reply.  We have noted your approval on the 
> > > AUTH48 page <https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9695>.  If possible, we 
> > > would appreciate a confirmation directly from Chris that the document is 
> > > also ready for publication. 
> > > 
> > > Thanks for your help! 
> > > RFC Editor/sg
> > > 
> > > > On Jan 17, 2025, at 8:06 AM, Yeshwant Muthusamy <yeshw...@yeshvik.com> 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > Hi Sandy,
> > > > 
> > > > Chris and I have reviewed the diff files and updates and we are fine 
> > > > with the final version.
> > > > 
> > > > The document is APPROVED from the authors' perspective.
> > > > 
> > > > Please let me know if there are any other actions for us.
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Yeshwant
> > > > 
> > > > Yeshwant Muthusamy, Ph.D.
> > > > Owner and Principal
> > > > Yeshvik Solutions, LLC
> > > > www.yeshvik.com
> > > > +1 469-854-9836
> > > > yeshw...@yeshvik.com
> > > > 
> > > > On Thu, Jan 16, 2025, 9:08 PM Sandy Ginoza 
> > > > <sgin...@staff.rfc-editor.org> wrote:
> > > > Hi Yeshwant, Chris,
> > > > 
> > > > Thank you for your review and for updating the XML.  We have updated 
> > > > the document - thank you for your explanations.  Note that we updated 
> > > > the new references to reflect accurate title information and include 
> > > > additional author or organization information, as needed.  Please 
> > > > review the current files and let us know if additional updates are 
> > > > needed or if you approve the RFC for publication. 
> > > >    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9695.xml
> > > >    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9695.txt
> > > >    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9695.pdf
> > > >    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9695.html
> > > > 
> > > > AUTH48 diffs (highlights recent updates): 
> > > >    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9695-auth48diff.html
> > > >    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9695-auth48rfcdiff.html (side 
> > > > by side)
> > > > 
> > > > Comprehensive diffs: 
> > > >    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9695-diff.html
> > > >    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9695-rfcdiff.html (side by 
> > > > side)
> > > > 
> > > > Thank you,
> > > > RFC Editor/sg
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > On Jan 15, 2025, at 9:21 AM, Yeshwant Muthusamy 
> > > > > <yeshw...@yeshvik.com> wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > Sandy,
> > > > > 
> > > > > Please let me know if there is anything else needed from the authors 
> > > > > (Chris and me). We are done with our changes/comments. You should 
> > > > > have the revised XML file that I sent in the previous email.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Yeshwant
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Yeshwant Muthusamy, Ph.D.
> > > > > Owner and Principal
> > > > > Yeshvik Solutions, LLC
> > > > > www.yeshvik.com
> > > > > +1 469-854-9836
> > > > > yeshw...@yeshvik.com
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Fri, Jan 10, 2025 at 3:17 PM Yeshwant Muthusamy 
> > > > > <yeshw...@yeshvik.com> wrote:
> > > > > Sandy, Others,
> > > > > 
> > > > > Attached please find the XML source with the authors' comments and 
> > > > > changes, in response to the comments marked [rfced] by the RFC 
> > > > > Editors.
> > > > > 
> > > > > FWIW, we've also included the revised output files (.txt and .html), 
> > > > > generated using xml2rfc -v3, reflecting all the changes made (with 
> > > > > the exception of the deleting the Terminology section - we have left 
> > > > > that for the Editors).
> > > > > 
> > > > > Authors' responses/comments/notes are clearly marked within the 
> > > > > comment sections in the attached XML document. Examples: [AUTHORS' 
> > > > > RESPONSE], [AUTHORS' NOTE], etc. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Please let me know if something is unclear or if we have missed 
> > > > > something.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Thanks for your patience.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Yeshwant
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Yeshwant Muthusamy, Ph.D.
> > > > > Owner and Principal
> > > > > Yeshvik Solutions, LLC
> > > > > www.yeshvik.com
> > > > > +1 469-854-9836
> > > > > yeshw...@yeshvik.com
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Fri, Jan 10, 2025 at 1:03 PM Sandy Ginoza 
> > > > > <sgin...@staff.rfc-editor.org> wrote:
> > > > > Hi Yeshwant,
> > > > > 
> > > > > We will wait to hear from you and Chris - thank you for the update. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Thank you,
> > > > > RFC Editor/sg
> > > > > 
> > > > > > On Jan 10, 2025, at 10:55 AM, Yeshwant Muthusamy 
> > > > > > <yeshw...@yeshvik.com> wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Sandy,
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I completed my changes/revisions based on the Editors' comments. I 
> > > > > > have sent them to my co-author, Chris Ullrich, for his review and 
> > > > > > additions, if any (as we are not in the same location). I hope to 
> > > > > > hear back from Chris today. We will get back to you as soon as 
> > > > > > possible.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Thanks for your patience.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Yeshwant
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Yeshwant Muthusamy, Ph.D.
> > > > > > Owner and Principal
> > > > > > Yeshvik Solutions, LLC
> > > > > > www.yeshvik.com
> > > > > > +1 469-854-9836
> > > > > > yeshw...@yeshvik.com
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > On Fri, Jan 10, 2025 at 12:51 PM Sandy Ginoza 
> > > > > > <sgin...@staff.rfc-editor.org> wrote:
> > > > > > Authors,
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > We do not believe we have heard from you regarding the questions 
> > > > > > below.  Please let us know how we may resolve the items listed 
> > > > > > below.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Thank you,
> > > > > > RFC Editor/sg
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > On Dec 23, 2024, at 11:12 PM, rfc-edi...@rfc-editor.org wrote:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Authors,
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > While reviewing this document during AUTH48, please resolve (as 
> > > > > > > necessary) 
> > > > > > > the following questions, which are also in the XML file.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 1) <!-- [rfced] Please insert any keywords (beyond those that 
> > > > > > > appear in
> > > > > > > the title) for use on https://www.rfc-editor.org/search. -->
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 2) <!-- [rfced] We do believe the capitalized keywords are used 
> > > > > > > in the RFC. 
> > > > > > > Please review and let us know if any of the capitalized keywords 
> > > > > > > should be 
> > > > > > > used.  Otherwise, we will remove the Terminology section and 
> > > > > > > related 
> > > > > > > references. 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Original: 
> > > > > > > 1.1.  Terminology
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >   The keywords MUST, MUST NOT, REQUIRED, SHALL, SHALL NOT,
> > > > > > >   SHOULD,SHOULD NOT, RECOMMENDED, NOT RECOMMENDED, MAY, and 
> > > > > > > OPTIONAL in
> > > > > > >   this document are to be interpreted as described in BCP 14 
> > > > > > > [RFC2119]
> > > > > > >   [RFC8174] when, and only when, they appear in all capitals, as 
> > > > > > > shown
> > > > > > >   here.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > -->
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 3) <!-- [rfced] Would you like to include references for the 
> > > > > > > sales data 
> > > > > > > listed? 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Original:
> > > > > > >   *  iPhone (206+ million units sold in 2020): native support for
> > > > > > >      haptic encoded data
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >   *  Android (1.38+ billion units sold in 2020): API support of 
> > > > > > > haptic
> > > > > > >      buffers
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >   *  W3C (HTML vibration API [W3C-Vibration]): Optionally 
> > > > > > > supported in
> > > > > > >      mobile web browsers.  W3C has also defined vibration 
> > > > > > > extensions
> > > > > > >      for gamepads [W3C-Gamepad]
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >   *  Game consoles (39+ million units sold in 2019): MS Xbox, Sony
> > > > > > >      PlayStation, Nintendo Switch, etc.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >   *  XR devices (9+ million units sold in 2019): OpenXR haptic API
> > > > > > > -->
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 4) <!-- [rfced] May we expand CE as Customer Edge?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Original:
> > > > > > >   Since they represent the majority of CE devices, a strong
> > > > > > >   case can be made for 'haptics' as a top-level media type.
> > > > > > > -->
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 5) <!-- [rfced] The text indicates the subtypes have not been 
> > > > > > > registered by IANA, but ivs is being registered by this document. 
> > > > > > >  Please 
> > > > > > > consider whether updates are needed.  Is it correct that ivs is 
> > > > > > > the only 
> > > > > > > type mentioned in Section 2.5 being registered at this time?  
> > > > > > > Note: likely different, but we see ogg has been registered as an 
> > > > > > > application subtype (see 
> > > > > > > https://www.iana.org/assignments/media-types/application/ogg).
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Original: 
> > > > > > >   While these subtypes have *not* been registered with IANA or
> > > > > > >   standardized (yet), the prevalence of these haptic data formats 
> > > > > > > in a
> > > > > > >   large number of devices around the world, pre-dating the
> > > > > > >   standardization of haptic tracks in ISOBMFF, provides a 
> > > > > > > compelling
> > > > > > >   argument for 'haptics' to be designated as a top-level media 
> > > > > > > type:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Perhaps remove mention of "not been registered with IANA?
> > > > > > >   While these subtypes have *not* been standardized (yet), 
> > > > > > >   the prevalence of these haptic data formats in a
> > > > > > >   large number of devices around the world, pre-dating the
> > > > > > >   standardization of haptic tracks in ISOBMFF, provides a 
> > > > > > > compelling
> > > > > > >   argument for 'haptics' to be designated as a top-level media 
> > > > > > > type:
> > > > > > > -->
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 6) <!-- [rfced] hmpg and hjif are being registered by this 
> > > > > > > document.  
> > > > > > > Please consider how this text can be updated for accuracy.  
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Original:
> > > > > > >   These
> > > > > > >   codes are not registered yet, but the plan is indeed to 
> > > > > > > standardize
> > > > > > >   these haptic coding formats in the near future.  Once 
> > > > > > > standardized,
> > > > > > >   these types should also be registered as subtypes of the 
> > > > > > > 'haptics'
> > > > > > >   top-level media type:
> > > > > > > -->
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 7) <!-- [rfced] For ease of the reader, we have updated "FourCC 
> > > > > > > codes" as 
> > > > > > > "FourCCs (four-character codes)".  Alternatively, may we replace 
> > > > > > > "FourCC" 
> > > > > > > with "four-character codes", because this is the only place 
> > > > > > > FourCC is used?  
> > > > > > > Please review. 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Original:
> > > > > > >   The MPEG ISOBMFF proposal included an informative annex of known
> > > > > > >   haptic coding formats with proposed FourCC codes for them.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Current:
> > > > > > >   The MPEG ISOBMFF proposal included an informative annex of known
> > > > > > >   haptic coding formats with proposed FourCCs (four-character 
> > > > > > > codes)
> > > > > > >   for them.
> > > > > > > -->
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 8) <!-- [rfced] Should "URLL" be "URLLC"?  If correct, may we 
> > > > > > > expand URLLC 
> > > > > > > as "Ultra-Reliable Low-Latency Communication (URLLC)"?  If not, 
> > > > > > > please 
> > > > > > > indicate how URLL should be expanded. 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Original:
> > > > > > >   *  IEEE P1918.1.1 vibrotactile coding standard [IEEE-P191811] 
> > > > > > > being
> > > > > > >      developed under the IEEE Tactile Internet initiative as part 
> > > > > > > of
> > > > > > >      the 5G URLL profile.
> > > > > > > -->
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 9) <!-- [rfced] [ISOBMFF-IS] This reference is the most current
> > > > > > > version of this standard, but there is a note on this version 
> > > > > > > that states
> > > > > > > "Expected to be replaced by ISO/IEC DIS 14496-12.2 within the 
> > > > > > > coming
> > > > > > > months."  Please let us know if publication of this document 
> > > > > > > should be 
> > > > > > > delayed until ISO/IEC DIS 14496-12.2 is formally published 
> > > > > > > (see https://www.iso.org/standard/85596.html). 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Original:
> > > > > > >   [ISOBMFF-IS]
> > > > > > >              "ISO/IEC 14496-12 (7th Edition) Information 
> > > > > > > technology —                            
> > > > > > >              Coding of audio-visual objects — Part 12: ISO base 
> > > > > > > media                            
> > > > > > >              file format", 
> > > > > > > <https://www.iso.org/standard/83102.html>.
> > > > > > > -->
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 10) <!-- [rfced] [IEEE-P191811] The original URL redirected to the
> > > > > > > search page for IEEE Standards: 
> > > > > > > https://standards.ieee.org/standard/. 
> > > > > > > We have updated the reference as described on 
> > > > > > > https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/10555007.  The status is 
> > > > > > > marked as 
> > > > > > > "Inactive - Draft".  Please review and let us know if any updates 
> > > > > > > are 
> > > > > > > needed. 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >   [IEEE-P191811]
> > > > > > >              "P1918.1.1 - Haptic Codecs for the Tactile Internet",
> > > > > > >              <https://standards.ieee.org/project/1918_1_1.html>.
> > > > > > > -->
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 11) <!-- [rfced] Please review the "Inclusive Language" portion 
> > > > > > > of the 
> > > > > > > online Style Guide 
> > > > > > > <https://www.rfc-editor.org/styleguide/part2/#inclusive_language>
> > > > > > > and let us know if any changes are needed.  Updates of this 
> > > > > > > nature 
> > > > > > > typically result in more precise language, which is helpful for 
> > > > > > > readers.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > For example, please consider whether the following should be 
> > > > > > > updated: 
> > > > > > >   native
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Note that native can be ambiguous because it is subjective.  
> > > > > > > Perhaps "built-in" would work? 
> > > > > > > -->
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Thank you.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > RFC Editor
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > On Dec 23, 2024, at 11:03 PM, rfc-edi...@rfc-editor.org wrote:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > *****IMPORTANT*****
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Updated 2024/12/23
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > RFC Author(s):
> > > > > > > --------------
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Instructions for Completing AUTH48
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Your document has now entered AUTH48.  Once it has been reviewed 
> > > > > > > and 
> > > > > > > approved by you and all coauthors, it will be published as an 
> > > > > > > RFC.  
> > > > > > > If an author is no longer available, there are several remedies 
> > > > > > > available as listed in the FAQ (https://www.rfc-editor.org/faq/).
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > You and you coauthors are responsible for engaging other parties 
> > > > > > > (e.g., Contributors or Working Group) as necessary before 
> > > > > > > providing 
> > > > > > > your approval.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Planning your review 
> > > > > > > ---------------------
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Please review the following aspects of your document:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > *  RFC Editor questions
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >   Please review and resolve any questions raised by the RFC 
> > > > > > > Editor 
> > > > > > >   that have been included in the XML file as comments marked as 
> > > > > > >   follows:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >   <!-- [rfced] ... -->
> > > > > > > 
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> > > > > > > 
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> > > > > > > 
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> > > > > > > RFC9695 (draft-ietf-mediaman-haptics-05)
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> > > > > > > Title            : The 'haptics' Top-level Media Type
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