Hi Yeshwant, Murray, We are waiting on the following before continuing with publication:
1. Murray’s approval. Murray, would you please review the changes in the AUTH48 diff and let us know if you approve? They are likely ok, but I’d prefer to err on the side of caution. > > > >> AUTH48 diffs (highlights recent updates): > >> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9695-auth48diff.html > >> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9695-auth48rfcdiff.html (side by > >> side) 2. RFC-to-be 9694 to complete AUTH48 (see https://www.rfc-editor.org/staff/auth48_edit.php?docnum=9694). This document normatively references RFC 9694, so it cannot be published until RFC 9694 is also ready to be published. Please let us know if you have any questions. Thanks, RFC Editor/sg > On Feb 6, 2025, at 10:01 PM, Yeshwant Muthusamy <yeshw...@yeshvik.com> wrote: > > Hi Rebecca, > > What is the status of this document? Are we still waiting on Murray's > approval? > > Thanks, > Yeshwant > > > Yeshwant Muthusamy, Ph.D. > Owner and Principal > Yeshvik Solutions, LLC > www.yeshvik.com > +1 469-854-9836 > yeshw...@yeshvik.com > > > > On Thu, Jan 30, 2025 at 11:23 AM Rebecca VanRheenen > <rvanrhee...@staff.rfc-editor.org> wrote: > Hi Yeshwant, Chris, and Murray* > > I’ll be helping with this document this week as Sandy is on PTO. > > Yeshwant - Thanks for checking in about the status of the document. You are > correct that we have approvals from both you and Chris (I just forwarded the > approval from Chris to the AUTH48 archive). We are now waiting for approval > from Murray (AD). See the AUTH48 status page at > <https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9695>. > > *Murray - Please review the following and let us know if you approve: > > > Hi Murray, > > > > Would you please review the changes in the AUTH48 diff and let us know if > > you approve? They are likely ok, but I’d prefer to err on the side of > > caution. > > > >> AUTH48 diffs (highlights recent updates): > >> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9695-auth48diff.html > >> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9695-auth48rfcdiff.html (side by > >> side) > > Files: > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9695.xml > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9695.txt > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9695.pdf > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9695.html > > AUTH48 diffs (highlights recent updates): > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9695-auth48diff.html > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9695-auth48rfcdiff.html (side by side) > > Comprehensive diffs: > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9695-diff.html > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9695-rfcdiff.html (side by side) > > AUTH48 page for this document: > https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9695 > > Thank you, > RFC Editor/rv > > > > > On Jan 29, 2025, at 8:00 AM, Yeshwant Muthusamy <yeshw...@yeshvik.com> > > wrote: > > > > Hi Sandy, > > > > Chris tells me that he has sent you his approval. Are we good to go, or are > > you still waiting on other approvals? > > > > Thanks, > > Yeshwant > > > > Yeshwant Muthusamy, Ph.D. > > Owner and Principal > > Yeshvik Solutions, LLC > > www.yeshvik.com > > +1 469-854-9836 > > yeshw...@yeshvik.com > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jan 25, 2025 at 3:44 PM Sandy Ginoza <sgin...@staff.rfc-editor.org> > > wrote: > > Hi Yeshwant, > > > > Apologies for my delayed reply. We have noted your approval on the AUTH48 > > page <https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9695>. If possible, we would > > appreciate a confirmation directly from Chris that the document is also > > ready for publication. > > > > Thanks for your help! > > RFC Editor/sg > > > > > On Jan 17, 2025, at 8:06 AM, Yeshwant Muthusamy <yeshw...@yeshvik.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > Hi Sandy, > > > > > > Chris and I have reviewed the diff files and updates and we are fine with > > > the final version. > > > > > > The document is APPROVED from the authors' perspective. > > > > > > Please let me know if there are any other actions for us. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Yeshwant > > > > > > Yeshwant Muthusamy, Ph.D. > > > Owner and Principal > > > Yeshvik Solutions, LLC > > > www.yeshvik.com > > > +1 469-854-9836 > > > yeshw...@yeshvik.com > > > > > > On Thu, Jan 16, 2025, 9:08 PM Sandy Ginoza <sgin...@staff.rfc-editor.org> > > > wrote: > > > Hi Yeshwant, Chris, > > > > > > Thank you for your review and for updating the XML. We have updated the > > > document - thank you for your explanations. Note that we updated the new > > > references to reflect accurate title information and include additional > > > author or organization information, as needed. Please review the current > > > files and let us know if additional updates are needed or if you approve > > > the RFC for publication. > > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9695.xml > > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9695.txt > > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9695.pdf > > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9695.html > > > > > > AUTH48 diffs (highlights recent updates): > > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9695-auth48diff.html > > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9695-auth48rfcdiff.html (side by > > > side) > > > > > > Comprehensive diffs: > > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9695-diff.html > > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9695-rfcdiff.html (side by side) > > > > > > Thank you, > > > RFC Editor/sg > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 15, 2025, at 9:21 AM, Yeshwant Muthusamy <yeshw...@yeshvik.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Sandy, > > > > > > > > Please let me know if there is anything else needed from the authors > > > > (Chris and me). We are done with our changes/comments. You should have > > > > the revised XML file that I sent in the previous email. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Yeshwant > > > > > > > > > > > > Yeshwant Muthusamy, Ph.D. > > > > Owner and Principal > > > > Yeshvik Solutions, LLC > > > > www.yeshvik.com > > > > +1 469-854-9836 > > > > yeshw...@yeshvik.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jan 10, 2025 at 3:17 PM Yeshwant Muthusamy > > > > <yeshw...@yeshvik.com> wrote: > > > > Sandy, Others, > > > > > > > > Attached please find the XML source with the authors' comments and > > > > changes, in response to the comments marked [rfced] by the RFC Editors. > > > > > > > > FWIW, we've also included the revised output files (.txt and .html), > > > > generated using xml2rfc -v3, reflecting all the changes made (with the > > > > exception of the deleting the Terminology section - we have left that > > > > for the Editors). > > > > > > > > Authors' responses/comments/notes are clearly marked within the comment > > > > sections in the attached XML document. Examples: [AUTHORS' RESPONSE], > > > > [AUTHORS' NOTE], etc. > > > > > > > > Please let me know if something is unclear or if we have missed > > > > something. > > > > > > > > Thanks for your patience. > > > > > > > > Yeshwant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yeshwant Muthusamy, Ph.D. > > > > Owner and Principal > > > > Yeshvik Solutions, LLC > > > > www.yeshvik.com > > > > +1 469-854-9836 > > > > yeshw...@yeshvik.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jan 10, 2025 at 1:03 PM Sandy Ginoza > > > > <sgin...@staff.rfc-editor.org> wrote: > > > > Hi Yeshwant, > > > > > > > > We will wait to hear from you and Chris - thank you for the update. > > > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > RFC Editor/sg > > > > > > > > > On Jan 10, 2025, at 10:55 AM, Yeshwant Muthusamy > > > > > <yeshw...@yeshvik.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Sandy, > > > > > > > > > > I completed my changes/revisions based on the Editors' comments. I > > > > > have sent them to my co-author, Chris Ullrich, for his review and > > > > > additions, if any (as we are not in the same location). I hope to > > > > > hear back from Chris today. We will get back to you as soon as > > > > > possible. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your patience. > > > > > > > > > > Yeshwant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yeshwant Muthusamy, Ph.D. > > > > > Owner and Principal > > > > > Yeshvik Solutions, LLC > > > > > www.yeshvik.com > > > > > +1 469-854-9836 > > > > > yeshw...@yeshvik.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jan 10, 2025 at 12:51 PM Sandy Ginoza > > > > > <sgin...@staff.rfc-editor.org> wrote: > > > > > Authors, > > > > > > > > > > We do not believe we have heard from you regarding the questions > > > > > below. Please let us know how we may resolve the items listed below. > > > > > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > > RFC Editor/sg > > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 23, 2024, at 11:12 PM, rfc-edi...@rfc-editor.org wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Authors, > > > > > > > > > > > > While reviewing this document during AUTH48, please resolve (as > > > > > > necessary) > > > > > > the following questions, which are also in the XML file. > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) <!-- [rfced] Please insert any keywords (beyond those that > > > > > > appear in > > > > > > the title) for use on https://www.rfc-editor.org/search. --> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) <!-- [rfced] We do believe the capitalized keywords are used in > > > > > > the RFC. > > > > > > Please review and let us know if any of the capitalized keywords > > > > > > should be > > > > > > used. Otherwise, we will remove the Terminology section and > > > > > > related > > > > > > references. > > > > > > > > > > > > Original: > > > > > > 1.1. Terminology > > > > > > > > > > > > The keywords MUST, MUST NOT, REQUIRED, SHALL, SHALL NOT, > > > > > > SHOULD,SHOULD NOT, RECOMMENDED, NOT RECOMMENDED, MAY, and > > > > > > OPTIONAL in > > > > > > this document are to be interpreted as described in BCP 14 > > > > > > [RFC2119] > > > > > > [RFC8174] when, and only when, they appear in all capitals, as > > > > > > shown > > > > > > here. > > > > > > > > > > > > --> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) <!-- [rfced] Would you like to include references for the sales > > > > > > data > > > > > > listed? > > > > > > > > > > > > Original: > > > > > > * iPhone (206+ million units sold in 2020): native support for > > > > > > haptic encoded data > > > > > > > > > > > > * Android (1.38+ billion units sold in 2020): API support of > > > > > > haptic > > > > > > buffers > > > > > > > > > > > > * W3C (HTML vibration API [W3C-Vibration]): Optionally supported > > > > > > in > > > > > > mobile web browsers. W3C has also defined vibration extensions > > > > > > for gamepads [W3C-Gamepad] > > > > > > > > > > > > * Game consoles (39+ million units sold in 2019): MS Xbox, Sony > > > > > > PlayStation, Nintendo Switch, etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > * XR devices (9+ million units sold in 2019): OpenXR haptic API > > > > > > --> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4) <!-- [rfced] May we expand CE as Customer Edge? > > > > > > > > > > > > Original: > > > > > > Since they represent the majority of CE devices, a strong > > > > > > case can be made for 'haptics' as a top-level media type. > > > > > > --> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5) <!-- [rfced] The text indicates the subtypes have not been > > > > > > registered by IANA, but ivs is being registered by this document. > > > > > > Please > > > > > > consider whether updates are needed. Is it correct that ivs is the > > > > > > only > > > > > > type mentioned in Section 2.5 being registered at this time? > > > > > > Note: likely different, but we see ogg has been registered as an > > > > > > application subtype (see > > > > > > https://www.iana.org/assignments/media-types/application/ogg). > > > > > > > > > > > > Original: > > > > > > While these subtypes have *not* been registered with IANA or > > > > > > standardized (yet), the prevalence of these haptic data formats > > > > > > in a > > > > > > large number of devices around the world, pre-dating the > > > > > > standardization of haptic tracks in ISOBMFF, provides a compelling > > > > > > argument for 'haptics' to be designated as a top-level media type: > > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps remove mention of "not been registered with IANA? > > > > > > While these subtypes have *not* been standardized (yet), > > > > > > the prevalence of these haptic data formats in a > > > > > > large number of devices around the world, pre-dating the > > > > > > standardization of haptic tracks in ISOBMFF, provides a compelling > > > > > > argument for 'haptics' to be designated as a top-level media type: > > > > > > --> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6) <!-- [rfced] hmpg and hjif are being registered by this > > > > > > document. > > > > > > Please consider how this text can be updated for accuracy. > > > > > > > > > > > > Original: > > > > > > These > > > > > > codes are not registered yet, but the plan is indeed to > > > > > > standardize > > > > > > these haptic coding formats in the near future. Once > > > > > > standardized, > > > > > > these types should also be registered as subtypes of the 'haptics' > > > > > > top-level media type: > > > > > > --> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7) <!-- [rfced] For ease of the reader, we have updated "FourCC > > > > > > codes" as > > > > > > "FourCCs (four-character codes)". Alternatively, may we replace > > > > > > "FourCC" > > > > > > with "four-character codes", because this is the only place FourCC > > > > > > is used? > > > > > > Please review. > > > > > > > > > > > > Original: > > > > > > The MPEG ISOBMFF proposal included an informative annex of known > > > > > > haptic coding formats with proposed FourCC codes for them. > > > > > > > > > > > > Current: > > > > > > The MPEG ISOBMFF proposal included an informative annex of known > > > > > > haptic coding formats with proposed FourCCs (four-character codes) > > > > > > for them. > > > > > > --> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8) <!-- [rfced] Should "URLL" be "URLLC"? If correct, may we > > > > > > expand URLLC > > > > > > as "Ultra-Reliable Low-Latency Communication (URLLC)"? If not, > > > > > > please > > > > > > indicate how URLL should be expanded. > > > > > > > > > > > > Original: > > > > > > * IEEE P1918.1.1 vibrotactile coding standard [IEEE-P191811] > > > > > > being > > > > > > developed under the IEEE Tactile Internet initiative as part of > > > > > > the 5G URLL profile. > > > > > > --> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 9) <!-- [rfced] [ISOBMFF-IS] This reference is the most current > > > > > > version of this standard, but there is a note on this version that > > > > > > states > > > > > > "Expected to be replaced by ISO/IEC DIS 14496-12.2 within the coming > > > > > > months." Please let us know if publication of this document should > > > > > > be > > > > > > delayed until ISO/IEC DIS 14496-12.2 is formally published > > > > > > (see https://www.iso.org/standard/85596.html). > > > > > > > > > > > > Original: > > > > > > [ISOBMFF-IS] > > > > > > "ISO/IEC 14496-12 (7th Edition) Information technology > > > > > > — > > > > > > Coding of audio-visual objects — Part 12: ISO base > > > > > > media > > > > > > file format", > > > > > > <https://www.iso.org/standard/83102.html>. > > > > > > --> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 10) <!-- [rfced] [IEEE-P191811] The original URL redirected to the > > > > > > search page for IEEE Standards: > > > > > > https://standards.ieee.org/standard/. > > > > > > We have updated the reference as described on > > > > > > https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/10555007. The status is > > > > > > marked as > > > > > > "Inactive - Draft". Please review and let us know if any updates > > > > > > are > > > > > > needed. > > > > > > > > > > > > [IEEE-P191811] > > > > > > "P1918.1.1 - Haptic Codecs for the Tactile Internet", > > > > > > <https://standards.ieee.org/project/1918_1_1.html>. > > > > > > --> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 11) <!-- [rfced] Please review the "Inclusive Language" portion of > > > > > > the > > > > > > online Style Guide > > > > > > <https://www.rfc-editor.org/styleguide/part2/#inclusive_language> > > > > > > and let us know if any changes are needed. 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