Hi Alice,

Many thanks! It seems to me the issue has to do with whether or not a
line starts with a Hebrew or Latin character. By removing some text,
the second line no longer starts with a Hebrew character, so the line
is typeset left-to-right instead of right-to-left. But you probably
figured that out already.

Anyway, the document looks good to me, I approve of publication.

Kind regards, Martijn van Beurden

Op di 17 dec 2024 om 23:07 schreef Alice Russo <aru...@amsl.com>:
>
> Martijn,
> Thank you for pointing this out. This issue in the PDF has been corrected; 
> please see https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9639.pdf (page 62).
>
> The fix (to get the PDF to match the TXT and HTML) involved incrementally 
> updating the XML source file to pinpoint when the bug rears its head, and 
> then deleting the words "as follows" (this minor change is visible in the 
> last diff file, which shows only the most recent changes to the text file): 
> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9639-lastrfcdiff.html
>
> The files are here: (please refresh)
>   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9639.txt
>   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9639.pdf
>   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9639.html
>   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9639.xml
>
> All changes from the approved I-D:
>   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9639-diff.html
>   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9639-rfcdiff.html  (side by side)
>
> Please confirm before we continue the publication process. For more 
> specificity, screenshots are available below.
>
> Thank you.
> RFC Editor/ar
> --
>
> Before the fix (HTML vs. PDF - they do not match):
>   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9639_p62_before.png
>
> After the fix (HTML vs. PDF - they match):
>   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9639_p62_after.png
>
> > On Dec 12, 2024, at 7:00 AM, Martijn van Beurden <mva...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Sandy,
> >
> > Looking it this one more time, it seems the PDF still doesnt render 
> > correctly. In the spelling out with all the code points, it seems the 
> > characters are spelled out right to left instead of left to right. The PDF 
> > differs from the HTML and TXT in this respect.
> >
> > The HTML says somelike like
> >
> > where in direction of reading, the sequence of characters forming the field 
> > content is as follows: character 1, character 2, character 3, character 4.
> >
> > The PDF says something like this:
> >
> > where in direction of reading, the sequence of characters forming the field 
> > content is as follows: character 3, character 2, character 1, character 4.
> >
> > This seems like a tooling issue.
> >
> > Kind regards, Martijn van Beurden
> >
> > Op do 12 dec 2024 08:43 schreef Martijn van Beurden <mva...@gmail.com>:
> > Hi Sandy,
> >
> > This looks great, I approve. Many thanks for incorporating, and improving 
> > on, my suggestion.
> >
> > Kind regards, Martijn van Beurden
> >
> >
> > Op do 12 dec 2024 00:36 schreef Sandy Ginoza <sgin...@amsl.com>:
> > Hi Martijn,
> >
> > Thank you for your review.  We have updated the document and posted the 
> > files here for your review:
> >    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9639.xml
> >    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9639.txt
> >    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9639.pdf
> >    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9639.html
> >
> > Diffs of most recent updates only:
> >    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9639-lastdiff.html
> >    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9639-lastrfcdiff.html
> >
> > AUTH48 diff:
> >    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9639-auth48diff.html
> >
> > Comprehensive diffs:
> >    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9639-diff.html
> >    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9639-rfcdiff.html
> >
> > Please review and let us know if updates are needed or if you approve the 
> > RFC for publication.
> >
> > Thank you,
> > RFC Editor/sg
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Dec 7, 2024, at 4:05 AM, Martijn van Beurden <mva...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Op vr 6 dec 2024 om 22:33 schreef Sandy Ginoza <sgin...@amsl.com>:
> > >>
> > >> While troubleshooting, we were advised not to mix LTR and RTL scripts 
> > >> within the same <t> element and to include explanatory text that uses 
> > >> the <u> element.
> > >>
> > >
> > > I can see why this is problematic. For that very same reason it is
> > > very useful as an example of course. Thank you for taking the time to
> > > address this.
> > >
> > >>
> > >> We have updated the file to be more similar to RFC 9290 (which also uses 
> > >> “שלום") — "TITLE=שלום” now appears in artwork and is followed by the 
> > >> following explanatory text:
> > >>
> > >>   where in direction of reading, the sequence of characters is:
> > >>   "ש" (HEBREW LETTER SHIN, U+05E9), "ל" (HEBREW LETTER LAMED, U+05DC),
> > >>   "ו" (HEBREW LETTER VAV, U+05D5), "ם" (HEBREW LETTER FINAL MEM, U+05DD).
> > >>
> > >
> > > While this explains the part in Hebrew, it omits the Latin part. I
> > > think this should be noted. I propose the following change
> > >
> > > OLD:
> > > where in direction of reading, the sequence of characters is
> > >
> > > NEW:
> > > where in direction of reading, the sequence of characters forming the
> > > field content is
> > >
> > > I am not entirely sure whether 'forming the field content' is the best
> > > possible phrasing here. Feel free to propose something else, I just
> > > think that it is useful to mention that this 'spelling out' concerns
> > > the field content, not the field name nor the separator (see section
> > > 8.6 for details on these terms)
> > >
> > > I hope this proposal isn't too much trouble.
> > >
> > > Kind regards,
> > >
> > > Martijn van Beurden
> > >
> >
>

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