On Sat, Jun 3, 2023 at 7:37 PM Fernando Frediani <fhfredi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> If there are not enough incentives already let's create more then. We, as > a community in a bottom up process as responsible for creating them based > on what is right and fair to most people. > > Use the excuse that the broker market is happing is not enough to try > pretend things like leasing is a correct thing. It is not and will never > be, despite the need some may have. It is fundamentally wrong allow assign > addresses to those who can pay more rather than necessarily to those who > justify for them. > > We, as a community can adjust the rules in order to create more incentives > for unused spaces to be returned to ARIN so it can reassign to those who > really justify and will use them to build real Internet, based on fair and > neutral rules not just to speculate and profit from it. > We can have all the basis to support ARIN legally to revoke unused space > that to be returned therefore if it is not in use (being leased for > example) then it must be returned. > > Doesn't matter if that ended up happing here and there. If that is morally > wrong, a distrotion to the system and should not been done then any > necessary policy to support ARIN to revoke addresses where necessary and > reassign to those who really justify should be created for that. > We cannot prentend that is fine just because some a minority still beleive > it should be allowed to profit from something someone doesn't own and that > is in need for others to fulfil its main propose and build Internet. > > Fernando > ssues. > Hey Fernando, I'm interested in hearing what sort of things we as a community could do to create incentives to return v4 space to the RIRs. Right now, there's essentially none, but I don't have any good ideas here myself. As far ad adjusting rules to allow ARIN to simply reclaim space at will, absent egregious misbehavior, I think this creates a huge minefield of potential issues. Should ARIN revoke a /24 that's being used in such a way that only a single address is in use? What if the organization only needs a single anycast endpoint and they're using that /24 for that purpose? How do you decide when and where to simply revoke an LIR's allocations or an end-user's direct assignments? This is probably also a legal minefield in addition to being an ethical/moral minefield. - mdh Matt Harris VP OF INFRASTRUCTURE Follow us on LinkedIn! matt.har...@netfire.net 816-256-5446 www.netfire.com
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