Yessir. I cannot wait for both… but something tells me it may not happen in my lifetime.
On Fri, Jun 2, 2023 at 15:04 Owen DeLong <o...@delong.com> wrote: > The good news is that when IPv4 finally goes away, so do the brokers and > all of the other silliness paid transfers have brought with them. > > Owen > > > On Jun 1, 2023, at 16:51, Michael B. Williams via ARIN-PPML < > arin-ppml@arin.net> wrote: > > Fees for IP Brokers should be 100,000 times more, in my opinion. > > The fact that there is even a business for IP trading is sickening. > > On Fri, Jun 2, 2023 at 6:32 AM Tom Fantacone <t...@iptrading.com> wrote: > >> I was a bit stunned this morning to see our organization's ARIN fees >> would be going up by a factor of 10. We live in inflationary times, >> but that's an increase of, let's see, I guess 1,000%? >> >> Before the rest of you resource holders on the list have a coronary, >> let me qualify that this fee increase is for just for registered >> facilitators (brokers) and most of you won't be affected. This >> time. But the more general issue of ARIN raising fees in an >> extravagant manner with no solicitation for public discussion of the >> impact affects all of us. >> >> When ARIN began the facilitators' program the annual fee was just >> $100. A few years later the fee was raised tenfold to $1,000. Today >> we learned that another tenfold increase would go into effect making >> our annual fee $10,000. So it's actually a 100-fold increase in >> about a decade. >> >> Our own organization won't be too affected by this. We can handle >> it, and most of the larger IP brokers can as well. It may even help >> us by driving away some competition. But that shouldn't be the >> point. There are smaller organizations that are facilitators that >> will be severely impacted. We work with some of these and while they >> may not handle the volume of transactions we do, they do an excellent >> job in moving IPv4 resources to organizations that need them and >> educating the parties along the way. >> >> There are some other changes to the facilitator program, including >> requiring liability insurance for ARIN, background checks, customer >> references, etc. I assume this is to keep some of the riff-raff out >> and may be helpful. I don't see how outrageous fee increases help anyone. >> >> Other sharp fee increases have been brought up and complained about >> on this list, always after the fact. The recent resource holder fee >> increases that saw end user organizations suddenly treated as ISPs >> comes to mind. Recently, transfer fees spiked from $300 to $500 per >> transfer and were suddenly appled to source organizations in all >> transfers (it used to be just transfers from end user orgs). As if >> that wasn't enough, ARIN started charging transfer recipients an >> additional transfer fee. I can tell you from first-hand experience >> this hurt small organizations looking to acquire IPv4 blocks. >> >> I recommend ARIN transparently solicit public input when pondering >> fee increases of such magnitude. Hopefully before our fee goes up >> another 1,000%. >> >> Regards, >> >> Tom Fantacone >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ARIN-PPML >> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to >> the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List (ARIN-PPML@arin.net). >> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: >> https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml >> Please contact i...@arin.net if you experience any issues. >> > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-PPML > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List (ARIN-PPML@arin.net). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml > Please contact i...@arin.net if you experience any issues. > > > -- Sent from Gmail Mobile
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