+1=$ On Sunday, June 4, 2023, Matt Harris <m...@netfire.net> wrote:
> Matt Harris > VP OF INFRASTRUCTURE > > *Follow us on LinkedIn!* <https://www.linkedin.com/company/netfirecloud/> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/netfirecloud/> > *matt.har...@netfire.net* <matt.har...@netfire.net> > *816-256-5446* <816-256-5446> > *www.netfire.com* <https://www.netfire.com/> > On Sat, Jun 3, 2023 at 7:37 PM Fernando Frediani <fhfredi...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> If there are not enough incentives already let's create more then. We, as >> a community in a bottom up process as responsible for creating them based >> on what is right and fair to most people. >> >> Use the excuse that the broker market is happing is not enough to try >> pretend things like leasing is a correct thing. It is not and will never >> be, despite the need some may have. It is fundamentally wrong allow assign >> addresses to those who can pay more rather than necessarily to those who >> justify for them. >> >> We, as a community can adjust the rules in order to create more >> incentives for unused spaces to be returned to ARIN so it can reassign to >> those who really justify and will use them to build real Internet, based on >> fair and neutral rules not just to speculate and profit from it. >> We can have all the basis to support ARIN legally to revoke unused space >> that to be returned therefore if it is not in use (being leased for >> example) then it must be returned. >> >> Doesn't matter if that ended up happing here and there. If that is >> morally wrong, a distrotion to the system and should not been done then any >> necessary policy to support ARIN to revoke addresses where necessary and >> reassign to those who really justify should be created for that. >> We cannot prentend that is fine just because some a minority still >> beleive it should be allowed to profit from something someone doesn't own >> and that is in need for others to fulfil its main propose and build >> Internet. >> >> Fernando >> ssues. >> > > Hey Fernando, > I'm interested in hearing what sort of things we as a community could do > to create incentives to return v4 space to the RIRs. Right now, there's > essentially none, but I don't have any good ideas here myself. As far ad > adjusting rules to allow ARIN to simply reclaim space at will, absent > egregious misbehavior, I think this creates a huge minefield of potential > issues. Should ARIN revoke a /24 that's being used in such a way that only > a single address is in use? What if the organization only needs a single > anycast endpoint and they're using that /24 for that purpose? How do you > decide when and where to simply revoke an LIR's allocations or an > end-user's direct assignments? This is probably also a legal minefield in > addition to being an ethical/moral minefield. > > - mdh > >
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