On Mon, 9 Mar 2026 at 09:45, Ralf Mardorf <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Mon, 2026-03-09 at 03:56 -0500, David C Rankin wrote:
> > This may end up being an interesting exercise to watch. Nothing short
> > of a war between the privacy advocates, and the advocates for the
> > protection of children. Not to mention the FOSS community's eagerness
> > to have more personal information captured in the OS -- and then by
> > what, systemd?
>
> I can't resist saying more about this.
>
> The questions would be
>
> 1. With an open source operating system, how can you ensure that a
> security mechanism that performs age verification cannot simply be
> bypassed before installing this operating system or using it for the
> first time or each time you want to use it?
>
> It would be possible to bypass this without cracking any ominous binary
> blobs. This makes the whole thing even more absurd, especially for users
> who use a distro that is not user-friendly but user-centric.
>
> 2. Who should verify and store the data? Should David, for example, hold
> his ID up to a webcam and have a trusted user check it and store it in a
> database?
>
> 3. I haven't read the law. Does every login have to be done by someone
> above a certain age limit for younger users? Does it have to be a legal
> guardian?
>
> Some have mentioned routers and smart TVs, which would be perfectly
> acceptable when it comes to child protection.
>
> Which devices still operate with complex gear mechanisms today?
>
> Or just with electrical circuits, on-off timers via NE555? I still have
> a lot of old devices and haven't had to look inside the new ones yet.
> But I would be very surprised if new devices didn't use computers, but
> instead used gears and analog electronics.
>
> What about the dishwasher, washing machine, etc.? Are 13-year-olds now
> not allowed to learn to be independent without someone first approving
> the dishwasher or washing machine? Up to what age should little ones
> suckle at their mother's breast? Until they are 16? Until they are 18?
>
> Even if this could be implemented, it would be disastrous for children's
> development.
>

I'm sorry but this is just a gish gallop full of strawman arguments.

The law doesn't say "cannot be bypassed" it merely describes an intreface
where it is necessary to capture the data at *account setup* and expose it
e.g. when connecting to an app store

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