Gorry Fairhurst via Datatracker <nore...@ietf.org> wrote:
    > 3. Please could you add text to explain “no transport layer security
    > between Registrar-Agent and pledge..” e.g., please explain: Is this
    > something that users ought to add to a design? how? why? is it a
    > desirable property? Why? ...  or is this intended to be explained more
    > in the next subsections? ...  Especially since 7.1 speaks of optional
    > use of TLS.

The new (pledge) device:
a) has no internet. If it has IP at all, it's via a Soft-AP or an p2p ethernet
   cable.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SoftAP

b) the device has an IDevID, but that's a long-term certificate with no SAN
   that TLS could verify.  So, you can't do DNS-ID verification, so at most any 
TLS
   that would be there would be unable to verify anything.  A lot of effort
   for almost no security.
   The device has no name for any SAN.
   The device might have only an IPv6-LL address, which might be randomly 
generated.
   At most, the Registrar-Agent, which also might have no connectivity, would
   be able to validate that the IDevID is from a trusted manufacturer.  Not
   every deployment has such a list.  See 
https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8995.html#section-11.5

c) might be connected via USB. BTLE.  HTTP-ish/CoAP can run across BTLE using 
GATT.
   In theory, the entire Registry Agent could live in a mobile browser.
   No, we haven't explained this; it would be another document.

This is why the PRM mechanism includes so much *object* security including
having the pledge sign the Registrar Agent's nonce in the

Section 6.2 and 7.1 says a lot about the process expected around HTTP.
For instance, the registrar-agent can't put anything useful into the HTTP
Host: header either.







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Michael Richardson <mcr+i...@sandelman.ca>   . o O ( IPv6 IøT consulting )
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