Do you suppose you started one (the first accurate one?) or do you think the whole thing failed? Not sure myself...
On Thu, 12 Apr 2018, Reuben Staley wrote: > Because it's clear that I have not used the correct Agoran Term, I amend my > statement: > > This is simply a case of Trigon writing down a thing that e didn't actually > mean and everyone else not realizing until after the passing of the proposal. > I wanted there to be five auctions, but clearly the passed text does not > reflect my intent. I, working under the assumption that the rules called for > five separate auctions, *attempted to initiate* five separate auctions. > > On 4/12/2018 3:09 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > > > You CANNOT do that. The rule doesn't allow you to. So you failed to > > initiate five. You said you did in the announcement, but you didn't. > > Maybe you initiated one (the first accurate one, AUCTION 2), or maybe > > the collection was so ambiguous it all failed. > > > > On Thu, 12 Apr 2018, Reuben Staley wrote: > > > This is simply a case of Trigon writing down a thing that e didn't > > > actually > > > mean and everyone else not realizing until after the passing of the > > > proposal. > > > I wanted there to be five auctions, but clearly the passed text does not > > > reflect my intent. I, working under the assumption that the rules called > > > for > > > five separate auctions, initiated five separate auctions. > > > > > > On 4/12/2018 2:53 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Reading R2004, it looks like it was *supposed* to be a single auction? > > > > That's definitely not how the announcement below reads, and not how > > > > people have been bidding, so I don't know what actually happened. > > > > (R2004 only allows 1 auction to be started each week). > > > > > > > > I'm also looking for anything that says the Cartographer CAN transfer > > > > land in any circumstances, and all I'm finding is SHALLs. (is there > > > > a "SHALL implies CAN" somewhere?) > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 12 Apr 2018, Aris Merchant wrote: > > > > > Oops, you're right. You know, it seems pretty likely that those ones > > > > > just never began in the first place. > > > > > > > > > > -Aris > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 1:38 PM, Kerim Aydin <ke...@u.washington.edu> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > These are independent auctions so only the incorrect ones were just > > > > > > terminated I think? (Auctions 1,3,4). > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 12 Apr 2018, Aris Merchant wrote: > > > > > > > I agree with G.'s interpretation. I believe that Rule 2549's > > > > > > > statement > > > > > > > that "An Auction also CANNOT be initiated unless the Auctioneer is > > > > > > > able to give away each item in each of the Auction's lots" is > > > > > > > applicable, given that the announced items do not in fact exist. > > > > > > > Just > > > > > > > in case, I terminate the ongoing land auction, because some of the > > > > > > > lots are nonexistent and therefore "the Auctioneer of that Auction > > > > > > > cannot transfer any item included in a lot in that Auction" (Rule > > > > > > > 2552). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Aris > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 11:10 AM, Kerim Aydin > > > > > > > <ke...@u.washington.edu> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My interpretation: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You describe a particular lot as a "white land unit at XXXX". > > > > > > > > You > > > > > > > > do not have > > > > > > > > a "white land unit at XXXX" to transfer, so anyone can terminate > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > auction. > > > > > > > > If no one terminates it, I'm not sure whether you can satisfy > > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > obligation > > > > > > > > to transfer by transferring a black land unit at XXXX, or not. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (oh, just out of curiosity where does it say you CAN transfer > > > > > > > > particular > > > > > > > > land units? That wording of that would play into what you can > > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > cannot > > > > > > > > satisfy). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 12 Apr 2018, Reuben Staley wrote: > > > > > > > > > I'd say that these data are less relevant than the coordinates > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > the land > > > > > > > > > units, so it would not invalidate it. But that may just be me > > > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > > wanting > > > > > > > > > to do work to fix it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 12, 2018, 11:24 Corona > > > > > > > > > <liliumalbum.ag...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wait, I just looked it up (in your own report) and: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > AUCTION 1: The lot is the white land unit at (+1, +2) <-- > > > > > > > > > > actually black > > > > > > > > > > AUCTION 2: The lot is the white land unit at (+1, +3) > > > > > > > > > > AUCTION 3: The lot is the white land unit at (+2, 0) <-- > > > > > > > > > > actually black > > > > > > > > > > AUCTION 4: The lot is the black land unit at (+2, +1) <-- > > > > > > > > > > actually white > > > > > > > > > > AUCTION 5: The lot is the black land unit at (+2, +2) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gasp! It cannot be! Is it a... SCAM?!?! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > More seriously, does it make the auction initiation invalid? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 8:30 AM, Reuben Staley > > > > > > > > > > <reuben.sta...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is the second real land auction. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are currently 5 public, unpreserved, non-aether land > > > > > > > > > > > units in > > > > > > > > > > > existence. All 5 are put up for auction. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For the following 5 auctions, I am the announcer, Agora is > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > auctioneer, > > > > > > > > > > > and the minimum bid is 1 coin: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > AUCTION 1: The lot is the white land unit at (+1, +2) > > > > > > > > > > > AUCTION 2: The lot is the white land unit at (+1, +3) > > > > > > > > > > > AUCTION 3: The lot is the white land unit at (+2, 0) > > > > > > > > > > > AUCTION 4: The lot is the black land unit at (+2, +1) > > > > > > > > > > > AUCTION 5: The lot is the black land unit at (+2, +2) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~Corona > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > > > > http://www.avg.com > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Trigon > > > > > > > -- > Trigon >
