Just aesthetics, really

On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 4:03 AM, Aris Merchant <
thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> It just doesn't sound right to me. Overlapping isn't that big a problem. I
> mean, it's basically the same system anyway. I agree that a new name would
> be nice, but... "You have 2 Stains" doesn't have the right ring to it. It
> doesn't sound like a possesable object, and also sounds kinda weird and
> awkward.
>
> -Aris
>
> On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 7:00 PM Cuddle Beam <cuddleb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I prefer a name which isn't "Blots" to avoid overlapping. Stains sounds
> > pretty good.
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 3:07 AM, Kerim Aydin <ke...@u.washington.edu>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Oh I'm cool with it mostly - I played in the first Blots era and was
> just
> > > looking
> > > for another theme for the fun of it, but having done due diligence on
> > > alternatives
> > > I don't mind being retro.
> > >
> > > On Wed, 28 Feb 2018, Reuben Staley wrote:
> > > > It's fine to have something with a similar name. In the last few
> years
> > > of the
> > > > '90s, coins were the official currency of Agora. I just decided to
> > > ignore that
> > > > because none of the players at that time are here today.
> > > >
> > > > On 2/28/2018 5:45 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Yeah, Blots were the hardest for me, too, even after spending a
> > couple
> > > hours
> > > > > with a thesaurus and googling different religious words for sin. If
> > no
> > > one
> > > > > comes up with something better then, blots it is.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, 1 Mar 2018, Aris Merchant wrote:
> > > > > > Blots I don't know. Calling them Blots sounds the best, but
> that's
> > > been
> > > > > > used. Stains would work (they're stains on your soul), but it
> > > doesn't have
> > > > > > the same ring as Blots or Rests. Temples we should just call
> > temples
> > > or
> > > > > > shrines, because those are generic terms at this point (unlike
> > > churches,
> > > > > > mosques, synagogues, etc.). I like calling the status of having
> the
> > > > > > penalty
> > > > > > impure and pure, like you did. (If anyone doesn't like the
> > > connotations,
> > > > > > they can say so, but although they've been used to refer to
> certain
> > > > > > minorities in the past, there's no specific group that they refer
> > > to.)  I
> > > > > > think we should call the process of removing them absolution.
> Maybe
> > > the
> > > > > > methods could be prayer and sacrifice?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -Aris
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 12:07 PM Kerim Aydin <
> > ke...@u.washington.edu
> > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Ok folks, what's a set of religious terms for Blots,
> punishment,
> > > > > > > temples,
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > penance that won't be too culturally loaded for anyone?
> Keeping
> > > to the
> > > > > > > Agoran
> > > > > > > theme, something  ancient Greece and pleasing the gods?  Or
> > > something
> > > > > > > else
> > > > > > > (a
> > > > > > > little leery after the Karma/Eta thing annoyed some people).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Tue, 27 Feb 2018, Reuben Staley wrote:
> > > > > > > > Can I just say that I still really like the idea of this
> > > proposal? I
> > > > > > > don't
> > > > > > > > really want to attempt judicial reform, however, since I just
> > > got done
> > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > a different game(chang|break)ing proposal.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > El 27 feb. 2018 17:10, "Aris Merchant" <
> > > > > > > thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > escribió:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Forwarding a message from back when I was working on a
> > judicial
> > > > > > > > > system
> > > > > > > > > proposal. I dropped it, after realizing that that 1) this
> > kind
> > > of
> > > > > > > system
> > > > > > > > > needs to be written modularly, or it turns into a tightly
> > > bound mess
> > > > > > > and 2)
> > > > > > > > > I can't write modularly. However, this could perhaps be
> used
> > as
> > > > > > > > > theme
> > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > G.'s proposal (G., I don't know how set you are on
> Wevils?),
> > > and it
> > > > > > > comes
> > > > > > > > > with the resources built in.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -Aris
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> > > > > > > > > From: Aris Merchant <thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > Date: Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 11:37 PM
> > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: About that secret project...
> > > > > > > > > To: Reuben Staley <reuben.sta...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > (An introduction has been removed)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > My proposal requires two currencies, one to begin cases
> with
> > > and one
> > > > > > > > > to pay off blots. There were two previous blot-like system
> > I've
> > > > > > > > > seen,
> > > > > > > > > and each had a coherent theme. One was rests, which were
> the
> > > > > > > > > opposite
> > > > > > > > > of notes in a musically themed system. The other one was
> > blots,
> > > > > > > > > which
> > > > > > > > > were tracked by the Herald back when we considered crime a
> > > "blot" on
> > > > > > > > > the honor of the guilty. I still want to call them blots,
> but
> > > under
> > > > > > > > > my
> > > > > > > > > proposal they would symbolize the displeasure of the Spirit
> > of
> > > the
> > > > > > > > > Game upon those who break eir rules. You would expunge
> blots
> > > with
> > > > > > > > > incense, which would be sacrificed to the Spirit of the
> Game.
> > > This
> > > > > > > > > might eventually be used to receive other benefits from the
> > > Spirit
> > > > > > > > > (maybe eventually have a full religion subsystem?), like
> > > teleports
> > > > > > > > > or
> > > > > > > > > protection from attack.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > To initiate court cases (and file NoVs), you would use
> > bottles
> > > of
> > > > > > > > > ink,
> > > > > > > > > because it makes conceptual sense. The production path for
> > > these
> > > > > > > > > resources would consist of three new buildings. The first
> > one,
> > > the
> > > > > > > > > trading post, would import dyes and spices (probably for
> > free,
> > > > > > > > > although we might require a token payment or allow people
> to
> > > sell
> > > > > > > > > resources there later). Dyes would be refined in an
> extractor
> > > (I
> > > > > > > > > chose
> > > > > > > > > a name sufficiently general that we can add resources
> later,
> > in
> > > > > > > > > order
> > > > > > > > > to simplify production lines and simultaneously make them
> > more
> > > > > > > > > interesting). Spices could be converted to incense in a
> > > temple. I
> > > > > > > > > was
> > > > > > > > > thinking that perhaps visiting a temple that you didn't own
> > > would
> > > > > > > > > allow you to get rid of one free blot per week with the
> > owner's
> > > > > > > > > consent, to encourage cooperation. Dyes and spices are both
> > > begging
> > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > be expanded upon: dyes might someday be combined with
> fabric
> > to
> > > > > > > > > produce clothing, while spices could become a part of a
> > future
> > > > > > > > > cooking/crafting subsystem.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > (Conclusion also removed)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
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> > > > Trigon
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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