On Fri, 26 Jun 2009, Alex Smith wrote:
> I've edited out the bits of the proposal I think are unproblematic; here
> are comments on the other bits.

I think I took on all of your suggestions, especially including tightening
up security (e.g. restricting proposal cards to operating on ordinary non-
filibustered proposals).  Doesn't mean some bugs don't remain!  Only things 
I didn't agree with were:

> I don't really like this way of managing hand
> limits; simply reducing salaries for people with larger hands is likely
> to be easier to track and less randomly annoying (and also adds more
> strategy).

This took a long time for me to decide how it should go and I'm open
to it changing.  But it's chosen based on experience with the last round
of cards.  (1) If dealing simply stops when you have too many cards, you
get demotivated to earn them; (2) if you can somehow save pending draws
for when your hand is open again, the "pending draws" become a de-facto
currency and greatly affect the play, slowing things down among other
things.

>>       * Not Your Turn  - cancel a card play that occured in the last
>>                          24 hours; HOWEVER; if this would lead at any
>>                          time in the 24 hours after playing to a
>>                          paradox which would prevent its play, its
>>                          play is unsuccessful.
> Retroactive effects? At /power 2/? This is far too likely to lead to
> ridiculously complex CFJs, and quite possibly scams. (Imagine a power-3
> proposal passing, and someone performing an action defined in a power-3
> rule it created, then retroactively cancelling a card play such that it
> didn't pass after all.)

If the canceled card in the first place affecting ai-3 proposals, they're 
probably too powerful - you helped me tighten security there.  I think
the very short 24-hour rule means that, in effect, such a change doesn't
do much more than sneaking in an extra vote at the last minute.

> (And shouldn't it be 'dealor'?)

Agoran grammar: it would be 'Dealor' if it were a proper-noun defined 
office, but as a descriptor ("the dealer of deck X, the dealer of deck 
Y") it retains the 'e'.  :)

-G.



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