I think your use of metaphors, especially metaphors that were intended to emphasize your thoughts through exaggeration, may have confused me. Would you explain your last post Steve?
On Thu, Jun 20, 2019, 12:02 PM Steve Richfield <[email protected]> wrote: > Too much responding without sufficient thought. After a week of thought > regarding earlier postings on this thread... > > Genuine computation involves manipulating numerically expressible value > (e.g. 0.62), dimensionality (e.g. probability), and significance (e.g. +/- > 0.1). Outputs of biological neurons appear to fit this model. > > HOWEVER, much of AI does NOT fit this model - yet still appears to "work". > If this is useful than use it, but there usually is no path to better > solutions. You can't directly understand, optimize, adapt, debug, etc., > because it is difficult/impossible to wrap your brain around quantities > representing nothing. > > Manipulations that don't fit this model are numerology, not mathematics, > akin to bring astrology instead of astronomy. > > It seems perfectly obvious to me that AGI, when it comes into being, will > involve NO numerological faux "computation". > > Sure, learning could involve developing entirely new computation, but it > would have to perform potentially valid computations on it's inputs. For > example, adding probabilities is NOT valid, but ORing them could be valid. > > Steve > > On Thu, Jun 20, 2019, 8:22 AM Alan Grimes via AGI <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> It has the basic structure and organization of a conscious agent, >> obviously it lacks the other ingredients required to produce a complete >> mind. >> >> Stefan Reich via AGI wrote: >> > Prednet develops consciousness? >> > >> > On Wed, Jun 19, 2019, 06:51 Alan Grimes via AGI <[email protected] >> > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> > >> > Yay, it seems peeps are finally ready to talk about this!! =P >> > >> > >> > Lets see if I can fool anyone into thinking I'm actually making >> > sense by >> > starting with a first principles approach... Permalink >> > < >> https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T395236743964cb4b-M686d9fcf7662ad8dc2fc1130 >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> -- >> Please report bounces from this address to [email protected] >> >> Powers are not rights. >> > *Artificial General Intelligence List <https://agi.topicbox.com/latest>* > / AGI / see discussions <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi> + > participants <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/members> + delivery > options <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription> Permalink > <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T395236743964cb4b-M3683e7beda9dccf33144d7fc> > ------------------------------------------ Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T395236743964cb4b-Maf54fcdee2a605f2d8a66a6c Delivery options: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription
