Do we think when Tesla Optimus robots are mass produced in a few years,
that some of the manual labor can be replaced with robots? That would drive
down fiber construction cost considerably. Instead of 5 guys per drill
crew, it could be 1-2 guys and the rest are robots.

On Fri, Mar 21, 2025, 3:50 PM dbernardi <dberna...@zitomedia.net> wrote:

>
>
> But the expensive/important part (fiber) is in place.  If the gubment is
> going to piss away tax dollars for unserved/underserved broadband, fiber
> construction seems like a decent urinal.
>
> XGS-PON can co-exist with GPON on the same fiber so eventual upgrades
> are fairly easy.  Do combo GPON/XGS-PON at the OLT out of the gate so a
> CPE swap is the only thing require for an upgrade to a shared 10Gb
> service.   When XGS-PON isn't enough bandwidth for the 32 subscribers on
> a PON, I'd rather replace equipment at either end than deal with another
> construction project.  Or do a 1:16 split.
>
> Preparing for AE when doing the construction is probably worthwhile too
> even if you only light for PON initially, or mix/match.  The cost of
> deploying high count fiber cable isn't that significant in the big
> picture.
>
> And why does fiber construction have to be so (artificially?) expensive.
>   Buy America will certainly make broadband deployments more expensive
> but that's a good thing if it truly provides jobs and manufacturing
> investment, but I have my doubts.
>
>
>
> On 3/21/2025 2:04 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
> > Is GPON good enough?  That can only do gigabit and each port is 2.5G.
> > Should these projects require NGPON?  Or maybe every location should
> > have AE so they can do 100G to start with.
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 21, 2025 at 2:01 PM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
> > <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> >     Because in X years they won't be. With fiber they will be upon the
> >     same Infrastructure.
> >
> >     On Fri, Mar 21, 2025, 10:59 AM Josh Luthman
> >     <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>>
> >     wrote:
> >
> >         But people that currently have fixed wireless of 100x20 are
> >         sufficiently served?  How does that make any sense?
> >
> >         On Fri, Mar 21, 2025 at 11:44 AM Steve Jones
> >         <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>>
> >         wrote:
> >
> >             they should not allow fixed wireless, they never should have
> >             allowed technology with a short shelf life
> >
> >
> >             On Thu, Mar 20, 2025 at 9:17 AM Adam Moffett
> >             <dmmoff...@gmail.com <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> >                 Well....
> >
> >                 https://bsky.app/profile/craigsilverman.bsky.social/
> >                 post/3lkiye5n2dk2p <https://bsky.app/profile/
> >                 craigsilverman.bsky.social/post/3lkiye5n2dk2p>
> >
> >                 https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/s/seq3uoU1L5
> >                 <https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/s/seq3uoU1L5>
> >
> >                 The director of BEAD quit.  He says the previous rules
> >                 interpreted the bill to mean that only FTTH would meet
> >                 the performance and future-proofing requirements.  He is
> >                 claiming that there are proposed rule changes that will
> >                 allow Starlink but not allow fixed wireless.  I don't
> >                 know whether the changes /intentionally/ benefit
> >                 Starlink, but this guy is crying foul and felt strongly
> >                 enough about it to resign over it.
> >
> >                 -Adam
> >
> >
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> >                 *From:* AF on behalf of Ken Hohhof
> >                 *Sent:* Thursday, March 20, 2025 12:19 AM
> >                 *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
> >                 *Subject:* [AFMUG] BEAD
> >
> >                 I’m surprised BEAD hasn’t run into problems because the
> >                 E stands for Equity and DEI is now banned.
> >
> >                 But if they eliminate the E, would it just be BAD?
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