But I print maybe 20 sheets per year. Tank type printers get print head clogs
if you don’t use them often enough. I spent years fighting this. Spending 30
minutes getting the printer to go to print one sheet.
From: TJ Trout
Sent: Friday, February 7, 2025 9:28 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Inkjet
Chuck find a x476dw or x576dw on Facebook marketplace and buy the 4l tank from
proinkshop, I've had mine printing hundreds of pages a month for almost 10
years and it's only half empty!
On Fri, Feb 7, 2025, 3:22 AM Chuck <ch...@go-mtc.com> wrote:
My main printer is a nice Sharp printer/scanner that will do B size. I do as
much as I can with that. But when I have a large part that needs a 1:1 check
plot for fit I use the large printer. I had a color pen plotter. Had a pen
magazine. When I was in college, autocad was brand new. Doing PCB layout on a
computer sure beat tape and xacto knifes. I don’t think auto routers had been
invented yet. I still do lots of hand optimism. I let the auto router do
power planes, then hand edit them. Then let it do the other layers.
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On Feb 6, 2025, at 9:00 PM, Ken Hohhof <khoh...@kwom.com> wrote:
When I started out, drawings were done by hand and PCB layouts were done
with black or red/blue tape. Copies were made on a blueline machine using
ammonia.
I mostly worked in or managed electronic design groups although at a few
companies I also had mechanical engineering and PCB design reporting to me. On
the EE side we mostly went to printing B size (11x17) on laser printers. The
drawings might have been D size but you can print them as B size, and you can
print C size as A.
But yes, to actually print C, D and E size you’re talking a pen plotter or
inkjet printer like Chuck is talking about. I doubt they make laser printers
that big. I don’t see any here:
https://www.hp.com/us-en/shop/mlp/printers/large-format-printers
I do vaguely recall pen plotters but not color ones. The only color
engineering drawings I remember were the red and blue taped double sided PCB
layouts. I’m sure that has changed by now.
Like Chuck says, the large format printers are very reliable, it’s just
frustrating (and probably illegal) what HP is doing to lock out third party ink
cartridges.
From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Chuck
Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2025 7:48 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Cc: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Inkjet
This has been the best large format printer I have ever had. Previously I
would spend more time running print head cleaning cycles than printing if not
used daily. This one generally works every time. Even if it has been a month.
I have have been printing D size for close to 40 years. Back in the pen
plotter days. So other than this snafu, happy with the printer.
Sent from my iPhone
On Feb 6, 2025, at 6:36 PM, Jan-GAMs <j.vank...@grnacres.net> wrote:
I called support about it, opened the window (on the 3rd floor) and
defenestrated the printer while support was on the phone telling me to reboot
the computer. What's that noise they asked?, me opening the window and me
throwing your product out the window! You can't do that! I just did! Weren't
you listening? That's what I think of your product, bye!
You should have heard it smash, a real satisfying crash sound.
I then bought a Brother multi-function color laser printer and never been
happier. Toner doesn't go dry waiting for next month's billing cycle and it
seems to last forever. Best ROI for office expense I ever made. Toner might
cost a little more than ink, but it lasts for many more print jobs and doesn't
dry out and clog jets.
On 2/6/25 16:25, ch...@go-mtc.com wrote:
If the HP quarterly report is not looking good, they send out a message
to all the printers to expire all the print cartridges...
From: Ken Hohhof
Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2025 5:14 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Inkjet
Sounds like something that could be hacked.
What HP does to generate ink revenue is annoying. Everyone finds it
annoying, many articles have been written about it. I find at least a dozen
things every day annoying. I find I have to choose my battles, and just give
in most of the time.
If you only print in black, I’m not sure how you ran out of color ink,
but it seems like buying one set of HP brand ink would be a one time purchase.
How much would that cost? I know all 3 color toners for a laser printer is a
lot of money.
I wonder if there are places that use a hypodermic needle to refill
genuine HP cartridges. Maybe HP uses some other method than checking if the
cartridge is empty.
From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2025 3:36 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Inkjet
Make sure you specify to print in black next time, otherwise it uses
all 3 colors to make #000001 instead of the black cartridge.
The most expensive liquid is ink.
On Thu, Feb 6, 2025 at 4:04 PM <ch...@go-mtc.com> wrote:
Went to print a D size drawing. HP said that my three color
cartridges were empty. I never print in color... I had some off brand
replacements, it rejected all of them as defective...
What a racket.
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