Re: [AFMUG] Art Deco Robovan

Fri, 11 Oct 2024 14:40:47 -0700

Jake brakes shut down some of the valves to create more forceful engine braking.  Those are the noisy ones.  There are also retarders that are essentially hydraulic pumps pumping into a dummy load.  Always good to have brake options.
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On Oct 11, 2024, at 3:13 PM, Ken Hohhof <khoh...@kwom.com> wrote:



Regenerative braking instead of engine braking would be a big improvement.  As would more torque for up hills or just getting up to speed.  And I imagine an electric semi would be a lot more pleasant to drive when stopped in traffic or just inching along.

 

I know a farmer just went through getting his CDL to drive the family grain truck, still needs to pass the manual transmission test because the test site didn’t have any but that’s what the farm owns.

 

I wonder if you need a special CDL to drive an electric semi, or if it’s the same as a diesel with an automatic.

 

Someone just the other day was explaining to me that the loud engine braking on a big diesel isn’t the same as on my 6 speed manual car.  Apparently there’s something called a “Jake Brake”.  OK, I would have guessed that was the name of a porn star.

 

From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2024 3:43 PM
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Yeah, there are a lot of super truckers out there that think that if a truck can't be used for cross-continent trips, it's junk. The Tesla semi simply isn't meant for trips that need a sleeper.

From: "Ken Hohhof" <khoh...@kwom.com>
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com>
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2024 2:07:21 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Art Deco Robovan

I think the complaints I read back when it was first introduced focused on two things – driver positioned in the center, and no sleeper cab.

 

Supposedly with the driver in the center, it makes it difficult to pass paperwork out the window at weigh stations and depots, or to access touchscreen kiosks.  Also can’t stick your head out the window to look behind when backing up.

 

No place to put a bed, and passenger seat is behind the driver not next to.

 

Probably minor complaints that can be addressed by companies like Pepsi or DHL that set their own procedures.

 

From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2024 1:32 PM
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I just read a review of the Tesla Semi the other day. It was mainly by Pepsico execs and actual semi drivers. From the review, the drivers absolutely love them. The huge torque makes mountain/hill climbing almost effortless, and the lack of noise and stink is a major plus. Of the drivers who were interviewed, they all said they never wanted to go back to diesel.

Pepsico has something like 50 deployed with (some number of) million miles driven, and they said they wanted to get 50 more.


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On Fri, Oct 11, 2024 at 10:37 AM Ken Hohhof <khoh...@kwom.com> wrote:

How is the Tesla Semi doing?  Unlike the Robovan, it already exists, doesn’t it?

 

I remember a review early on that said the designers must have never talked to an actual semi driver.  But maybe the intent is to have them be driverless.

 

Robovan seems like a better idea to me than the stupid Cybertruck.  As far as the taxi, it seems to me Waymo has been walking the walk while Tesla talks the talk.  Millions of miles of experience on the road probably count for more than glitzy demos and hype.  But honestly the Chinese will probably beat them all at the driverless taxi game.

 

From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Bill Prince
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Who among us thinks that's a good idea?

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On Fri, Oct 11, 2024 at 10:08 AM Ken Hohhof <khoh...@kwom.com> wrote:

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