you said the name, if its said two more times he will pop up and crush your larynx with a patch cable unless you guy a radio from him
On Fri, Oct 4, 2024 at 11:14 AM <ch...@go-mtc.com> wrote: > I remember another promise of Wimax. NLOS > > Patrick was always announcing super NLOS performance on one product or > another. > NLOS with trees, yes. Blocked by a hill.... color me skeptical. > > > *From:* Mathew Howard > *Sent:* Friday, October 4, 2024 9:23 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Tarana G2 > > Tarana definitely does NLOS a lot better than any of its predecessors, but > as far as "making every install work" goes, I'm still more than a little > skeptical... perhaps that will change after I've had more experience with > it, but I have my doubts. There are way too many variables in different > NLOS situations for me to just go by what other people say. We've all heard > those stories way too many times over the years. > > On Fri, Oct 4, 2024 at 8:44 AM <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Jeff, >> >> >> >> I know someone who tested Tarana and he seems convinced that it’s the >> NLOS holy grail that we always wanted. Like what every Wimax and LTE >> vendor promised us and couldn’t deliver. We have a long history in the >> industry which should make us all skeptical of NLOS claims so I’m curious >> if it’s really as great as all that. Any comment, Jeff? >> >> >> >> When we were doing 5ghz canopy, we bracketed our city with a dozen towers >> to give ourselves lots of options and we still had to end up saying “no” to >> half our installs. This is urban/suburban so we’re usually talking about >> one rooftop or one row of trees in the way. At most 100ft of foliage to >> penetrate before you’re in clear skies. 5ghz Canopy would work, but it >> tended to be unreliable in those conditions and we just found it wasn’t >> worth the trouble and the damage to our credibility if we installed it. >> Our Alvarion VL using neighbors always talked up how well their thing >> worked NLOS, but their actual outcomes and my own testing of the product >> told me that it only “works” NLOS within certain definitions of “works”, >> i.e.: you’d have to willing to accept high error rates and low MCS as >> “working”. Anything else built around a WiFi chipset I’d lump in with >> Alvarion. >> >> >> >> 900mhz of course worked within the limits of its bandwidth and high >> interference, and I’d say more or less the same about 2.4ghz. >> >> >> >> Wimax was an incremental improvement because you could get some >> predictable and reliable outcomes NLOS, but your NLOS customers are still >> lowering efficiency of the system due to retransmits and lower MCS, and I >> never saw a Wimax product that wasn’t a total PITA on the management side. >> I bitched endlessly about the Motorola CAP320, but after seeing what some >> other vendors had I think CAP320 might have been the cream of the crop as >> far as operability. LTE was another incremental step up, but at best maybe >> half as good as it was hyped up to be. >> >> >> >> If Tarana makes every install a success then we should give them all of >> our money and be happy to do it, but it absolutely better work. >> >> >> >> -Adam >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Jeff Broadwick - >> Lists >> *Sent:* Friday, October 04, 2024 8:40 AM >> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Tarana G2 >> >> >> >> I can get you any pricing you need. >> >> >> >> My understanding is that the G2 will be dual band, 3 and 6GHz. It will >> be able to use 4x 40MHz channels and still provide all the interference >> mitigation of the G1 with 2x 40MHz channels. >> >> >> >> I’m sure there is more, but that is what I know now. >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> >> >> Jeff >> >> >> >> Jeff Broadwick >> >> CTIconnect >> >> 312-205-2519 Office >> >> 574-220-7826 Cell >> >> jbroadw...@cticonnect.com >> >> >> >> On Oct 3, 2024, at 6:43 PM, Dev <d...@logicalwebhost.com> wrote: >> >> I wish Tarana’s price was the actual price, instead of sometimes a ton, >> sometimes a half a ton, sometimes don’t know. That way, I could calculate >> how many decades it would be until each customer would be profitable >> (outside of subsidized builds). >> >> >> >> On Oct 3, 2024, at 3:04 PM, Jason McKemie < >> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> The G1 is expensive enough, are people actually deploying these on a >> large scale? The AP is pricey, but not necessarily a deal-breaker - those >> subscriber units though... >> >> >> >> On Thu, Oct 3, 2024 at 1:21 PM Ken Hohhof <khoh...@kwom.com> wrote: >> >> Osborne Effect refers to one of the most infamous marketing fails of all >> time. >> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osborne_effect >> >> >> >> Has Tarana done this by announcing the G2 while all they have shipping is >> the G1? >> >> >> >> Or is the G2 so much more expensive that it’s just for window shopping >> anyway? 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