Re: [AFMUG] Tarana G2

[Jeff Broadwick - Lists]

BTW, we’ve seen people replace 900 MHz with 3GHz Tarana and the results have been terrific. Regards, Jeff  Jeff Broadwick CTIconnect 312-205-2519 Office 574-220-7826 Cell jbroadw...@cticonnect.com On Oct 4, 2024, at 10:19 AM, Jeff Broadwick - Lists <jeffl...@att.net> wrote: It won’t hit everything, but within 10 miles or so, 3GHz goes through a ton of foliage and 5 and 6 will generally go through a line of trees.  Nothing goes through dirt, but Tarana embraces multipath so it’s quite possible that you can get a solid connection off of a carom shot (mainly off of buildings)…people are doing that all over the place. The interference mitigation isn’t magic, but it’s freaking close.   We’ve been selling it for 3 years, so I’ve seen quite a few scenarios. Regards, Jeff  Jeff Broadwick CTIconnect 312-205-2519 Office 574-220-7826 Cell jbroadw...@cticonnect.com On Oct 4, 2024, at 9:43 AM, dmmoff...@gmail.com wrote:  Jeff,   I know someone who tested Tarana and he seems convinced that it’s the NLOS holy grail that we always wanted.  Like what every Wimax and LTE vendor promised us and couldn’t deliver.  We have a long history in the industry which should make us all skeptical of NLOS claims so I’m curious if it’s really as great as all that. Any comment, Jeff?   When we were doing 5ghz canopy, we bracketed our city with a dozen towers to give ourselves lots of options and we still had to end up saying “no” to half our installs.  This is urban/suburban so we’re usually talking about one rooftop or one row of trees in the way.  At most 100ft of foliage to penetrate before you’re in clear skies.  5ghz Canopy would work, but it tended to be unreliable in those conditions and we just found it wasn’t worth the trouble and the damage to our credibility if we installed it.  Our Alvarion VL using neighbors always talked up how well their thing worked NLOS, but their actual outcomes and my own testing of the product told me that it only “works” NLOS within certain definitions of “works”, i.e.: you’d have to willing to accept high error rates and low MCS as “working”.  Anything else built around a WiFi chipset I’d lump in with Alvarion.    900mhz of course worked within the limits of its bandwidth and high interference, and I’d say more or less the same about 2.4ghz.    Wimax was an incremental improvement because you could get some predictable and reliable outcomes NLOS, but your NLOS customers are still lowering efficiency of the system due to retransmits and lower MCS, and I never saw a Wimax product that wasn’t a total PITA on the management side.  I bitched endlessly about the Motorola CAP320, but after seeing what some other vendors had I think CAP320 might have been the cream of the crop as far as operability.  LTE was another incremental step up, but at best maybe half as good as it was hyped up to be.   If Tarana makes every install a success then we should give them all of our money and be happy to do it, but it absolutely better work.   -Adam           From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Jeff Broadwick - Lists Sent: Friday, October 04, 2024 8:40 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tarana G2   I can get you any pricing you need.   My understanding is that the G2 will be dual band, 3 and 6GHz.  It will be able to use 4x 40MHz channels and still provide all the interference mitigation of the G1 with 2x 40MHz channels.   I’m sure there is more, but that is what I know now.   Regards,   Jeff    Jeff Broadwick CTIconnect 312-205-2519 Office 574-220-7826 Cell jbroadw...@cticonnect.com On Oct 3, 2024, at 6:43 PM, Dev <d...@logicalwebhost.com> wrote: I wish Tarana’s price was the actual price, instead of sometimes a ton, sometimes a half a ton, sometimes don’t know. That way, I could calculate how many decades it would be until each customer would be profitable (outside of subsidized builds). On Oct 3, 2024, at 3:04 PM, Jason McKemie <j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:   The G1 is expensive enough, are people actually deploying these on a large scale?  The AP is pricey, but not necessarily a deal-breaker - those subscriber units though...   On Thu, Oct 3, 2024 at 1:21 PM Ken Hohhof <khoh...@kwom.com> wrote: Osborne Effect refers to one of the most infamous marketing fails of all time. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osborne_effect   Has Tarana done this by announcing the G2 while all they have shipping is the G1?   Or is the G2 so much more expensive that it’s just for window shopping anyway?  I figure if these are being bought with BEAD money, frugality may be out the window. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

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