Jeff,

 

I know someone who tested Tarana and he seems convinced that it’s the NLOS holy 
grail that we always wanted.  Like what every Wimax and LTE vendor promised us 
and couldn’t deliver.  We have a long history in the industry which should make 
us all skeptical of NLOS claims so I’m curious if it’s really as great as all 
that. Any comment, Jeff?

 

When we were doing 5ghz canopy, we bracketed our city with a dozen towers to 
give ourselves lots of options and we still had to end up saying “no” to half 
our installs.  This is urban/suburban so we’re usually talking about one 
rooftop or one row of trees in the way.  At most 100ft of foliage to penetrate 
before you’re in clear skies.  5ghz Canopy would work, but it tended to be 
unreliable in those conditions and we just found it wasn’t worth the trouble 
and the damage to our credibility if we installed it.  Our Alvarion VL using 
neighbors always talked up how well their thing worked NLOS, but their actual 
outcomes and my own testing of the product told me that it only “works” NLOS 
within certain definitions of “works”, i.e.: you’d have to willing to accept 
high error rates and low MCS as “working”.  Anything else built around a WiFi 
chipset I’d lump in with Alvarion.  

 

900mhz of course worked within the limits of its bandwidth and high 
interference, and I’d say more or less the same about 2.4ghz.  

 

Wimax was an incremental improvement because you could get some predictable and 
reliable outcomes NLOS, but your NLOS customers are still lowering efficiency 
of the system due to retransmits and lower MCS, and I never saw a Wimax product 
that wasn’t a total PITA on the management side.  I bitched endlessly about the 
Motorola CAP320, but after seeing what some other vendors had I think CAP320 
might have been the cream of the crop as far as operability.  LTE was another 
incremental step up, but at best maybe half as good as it was hyped up to be.

 

If Tarana makes every install a success then we should give them all of our 
money and be happy to do it, but it absolutely better work.

 

-Adam

 

 

 

 

 

From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Jeff Broadwick - Lists
Sent: Friday, October 04, 2024 8:40 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tarana G2

 

I can get you any pricing you need.

 

My understanding is that the G2 will be dual band, 3 and 6GHz.  It will be able 
to use 4x 40MHz channels and still provide all the interference mitigation of 
the G1 with 2x 40MHz channels.

 

I’m sure there is more, but that is what I know now.

 

Regards,

 

Jeff 

 

Jeff Broadwick

CTIconnect

312-205-2519 Office

574-220-7826 Cell

jbroadw...@cticonnect.com <mailto:jbroadw...@cticonnect.com> 





On Oct 3, 2024, at 6:43 PM, Dev <d...@logicalwebhost.com 
<mailto:d...@logicalwebhost.com> > wrote:

I wish Tarana’s price was the actual price, instead of sometimes a ton, 
sometimes a half a ton, sometimes don’t know. That way, I could calculate how 
many decades it would be until each customer would be profitable (outside of 
subsidized builds).





On Oct 3, 2024, at 3:04 PM, Jason McKemie <j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com 
<mailto:j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> > wrote:

 

The G1 is expensive enough, are people actually deploying these on a large 
scale?  The AP is pricey, but not necessarily a deal-breaker - those subscriber 
units though...

 

On Thu, Oct 3, 2024 at 1:21 PM Ken Hohhof <khoh...@kwom.com 
<mailto:khoh...@kwom.com> > wrote:

Osborne Effect refers to one of the most infamous marketing fails of all time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osborne_effect

 

Has Tarana done this by announcing the G2 while all they have shipping is the 
G1?

 

Or is the G2 so much more expensive that it’s just for window shopping anyway?  
I figure if these are being bought with BEAD money, frugality may be out the 
window.

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