Zimbra started crapping all over the open source community, so one of hte 
add-on vendors (ZExtras) forked it before they fucked it up and are now running 
with a "new" system, Carbonio. 






Also, yeah, my 365 gets blacklisted several times a year, more than all of my 
other email servers combined. 




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Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




----- Original Message -----

From: "Ken Hohhof" <khoh...@kwom.com> 
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com> 
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2024 8:38:18 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Email Servers 



I feel like the #1 advantage of hosting with Google or Microsoft is nobody 
dares blacklist them. 

Mike, weren’t you a Zimbra advocate at one time? Seems like that’s what all the 
cool kids were using, was that just its 15 minutes of fame? 




From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Mike Hammett 
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2024 8:18 AM 
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Email Servers 


While two of my organizations are on 365, they aren't without their own perils. 
I actually have less issues with my on-prem solution than the cloud ones. 



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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




----- Original Message -----


From: "Josh Baird" < joshba...@gmail.com > 
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" < af@af.afmug.com > 
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2024 7:14:28 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Email Servers 

SmarterMail is fine -- used to be only Windows (we run it on Windows), but now 
looks like they have a Linux distribution. 



But, if you ask me, y'all are crazy for running your own email server(s) 
anyways. Host your corporate email at Google/O365/whatever floats your boat, 
and politely tell your customers to get their email elsewhere. 



Cheers, 



Josh 



On Thu, Sep 12, 2024 at 6:06 PM Ken Hohhof < khoh...@kwom.com > wrote: 


When I was looking, some people suggested SmarterMail, but I didn't do a trial. 
Maybe someone here is familiar with it. 

If you want just a barebones SMTP/IMAP/POP3/webmail server you may want to roll 
your own like the old days. Postfix, Dovecot, Roundcube, SpamAssassin, ClamAV, 
MariaDB. 

Or believe it or not, there is a fork of the old Sun Cobalt software (now open 
source) still around and actively supported. Although it doesn't sound like you 
want to do web hosting, DNS, FTP, etc. on the same box. 
https://www.blueonyx.it/ 


-----Original Message----- 
From: AF < af-boun...@af.afmug.com > On Behalf Of Nate Burke 
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2024 4:24 PM 
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group < af@af.afmug.com > 
Subject: [AFMUG] Email Servers 

I've been using Merak/Icewarp email server for a long long time. Like 
20+ years, it's just worked, and worked, and worked. The software has 
been slowly migrating into becoming an MS exchange replacement with 
Groupware/files/cloud, and has made just a simple SMTP/IMAP/POP3/webmail server 
very difficult and expensive. 

I know that moving systems is bothersome, especially with users who might need 
to be 'touched' to update settings. But I think it's time to start looking at 
other options. 

Has anyone had to do this recently. What system did you migrate to/from? I have 
a couple hundred users spread across about 50 domains. 




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