But when it's in the cloud, then it's someone else's problem. "Sorry, I can't work today, the Cloud is having problems"  Seems to be a perfectly acceptable issue, and will be fixed 'soon'. However, "My internet is down" Requires immediate resolution.

On 9/13/2024 8:18 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
While two of my organizations are on 365, they aren't without their own perils. I actually have less issues with my on-prem solution than the cloud ones.



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*From: *"Josh Baird" <joshba...@gmail.com>
*To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com>
*Sent: *Thursday, September 12, 2024 7:14:28 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Email Servers

SmarterMail is fine -- used to be only Windows (we run it on Windows), but now looks like they have a Linux distribution.

But, if you ask me, y'all are crazy for running your own email server(s) anyways.  Host your corporate email at Google/O365/whatever floats your boat, and politely tell your customers to get their email elsewhere.

Cheers,

Josh

On Thu, Sep 12, 2024 at 6:06 PM Ken Hohhof <khoh...@kwom.com> wrote:

    When I was looking, some people suggested SmarterMail, but I
    didn't do a trial.  Maybe someone here is familiar with it.

    If you want just a barebones SMTP/IMAP/POP3/webmail server you may
    want to roll your own like the old days.  Postfix, Dovecot,
    Roundcube, SpamAssassin, ClamAV, MariaDB.

    Or believe it or not, there is a fork of the old Sun Cobalt
    software (now open source) still around and actively supported. 
    Although it doesn't sound like you want to do web hosting, DNS,
    FTP, etc. on the same box.
    https://www.blueonyx.it/


    -----Original Message-----
    From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Nate Burke
    Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2024 4:24 PM
    To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
    Subject: [AFMUG] Email Servers

    I've been using Merak/Icewarp email server for a long long time. Like
    20+ years, it's just worked, and worked, and worked.  The software has
    been slowly migrating into becoming an MS exchange replacement
    with Groupware/files/cloud, and has made just a simple
    SMTP/IMAP/POP3/webmail server very difficult and expensive.

    I know that moving systems is bothersome, especially with users
    who might need to be 'touched' to update settings. But I think
    it's time to start looking at other options.

    Has anyone had to do this recently.  What system did you migrate
    to/from?  I have a couple hundred users spread across about 50
    domains.




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