nail on the head On Sat, Mar 25, 2023 at 11:38 AM Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
> The problem is not left vs. right, it's authortarianism vs. liberty. > > Authoritarian left and authoritarian right are equally bad. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ------------------------------ > *From: *"Darin Steffl" <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com> > *To: *"Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net> > *Cc: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com> > *Sent: *Saturday, March 25, 2023 10:35:43 AM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] It has begun > > So Mike, > > You're saying the far right is better with your "no" response? > > The far right includes nazis, racists, homophobes who all want to use > violence to kill jews, people of color, gay and trans people, liberals, and > more. > > I don't know how you can seriously sit here and say that's better than the > non-violent things the far left wants to do. Antifa isn't even real so > don't bring in fake news. What's real are the people who stormed the > Capitol, proud boys, and lots of violent people who came out of the > woodwork after trump was elected. > > I'm still in the middle overall but I will always vote for human rights > and protections before I vote to benefit myself fiscally. I'm not a single > issue voter so I don't only vote on tax issues. I vote for people who > protect people and that's overwhelmingly democrats. Moderate ones are my > choice. > > I've never voted for Bernie but he's still a good guy who cares. Biden > wasn't my choice but he's way better than trump. I wanted Amy Klobuchar or > Pete Buttigieg personally. I think Pete will be president sometime in the > next 3 elections. > > Oh, the other thing that came of trump are some extremists in congress > being elected in 2022. They were a result of trump crying the 2020 election > was stolen and he riled up the base to give him money, stealing from his > supporters. And the most crazy ones ran and won in some cases. So now > there's some nut jobs in congress, more than the old ones who won't retire. > > Then more far right supporters started infiltrating school boards and city > councils to white wash history. They want to ban anything that teaches real > history because they don't want their kids to know about slavery and > racism, native Americans. They want to teach kids that white man discovered > America first lol. > > And now they're trying to ban books in schools and public libraries that > they don't like. Books that show a kid having two moms or dads for example. > They don't wany any pride flags, pins, or stickers anywhere in school > because they somehow think that will make a kid gay. They act like you > aren't born straight, gay, bi and that it's actually a choice ha. > > And don't get me started on them trying force their religious beliefs on > everyone else. And now their target is trans people and drag queens to > "protect the kids" while they take their kid to Hooters, or worse, church > where there's an infinitely higher chance of being sexually assaulted by a > pastor, staff, or volunteer. There isn't a single case of a drag queen > being charged with SA but there's thousands of church people that have been > charged and tens of thousands never charged because it's swept under the > rug. > > The right is actively stripping away rights of Americans and getting away > with it in many red states. Abortion too. Way to control women you sick > republican men! > > Over 385 anti-lgbt bills have been proposed at the state level. And who > proposed them? All Republicans. You can't say with a straight face that > they care about anyone. There's no empathy. Just hate and fear of those > different from them. I've watched fox and it's nothing but fear mongering > to rile up their base and keep they eyeballs glued to their channel. They > scare their viewers everyday and it's always a "war on something" with them. > > While I agree with some fiscal ideas Republicans have, they will never get > my vote as long as they hate America and it's people. Gen Z will completely > annihilate their party and they're likely going to lose every election > going forward if they don't pivot immediately. They'll only win state and > local elections in rural areas where there's a bunch of red voters who > continue to vote against themselves. > > > https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-03-08/2023-is-already-a-record-year-for-anti-lgbtq-bills-in-the-us?leadSource=uverify%20wall > > On Sat, Mar 25, 2023, 9:32 AM Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote: > >> I wish AFMUG would stop going political. It really serves no purpose. >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >> >> >> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >> ------------------------------ >> *From: *"Adam Moffett" <dmmoff...@gmail.com> >> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com>, "Darin >> Steffl" <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com> >> *Sent: *Friday, March 24, 2023 5:18:36 PM >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] It has begun >> >> Why are we going down this road again? >> >> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> on behalf of Chuck McCown via AF < >> af@af.afmug.com> >> *Sent:* Friday, March 24, 2023 6:14:09 PM >> *To:* Darin Steffl <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com>; AnimalFarm Microwave Users >> Group <af@af.afmug.com> >> *Cc:* Chuck McCown <ch...@go-mtc.com> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] It has begun >> >> Karl Marx >> Lenin >> Stalin >> Putin >> >> Pretty sure those dudes were far worst than Trump >> Even Castro >> Kim Jong Un >> >> Seriously you thing the far left are better? >> >> *From:* Darin Steffl >> *Sent:* Friday, March 24, 2023 3:54 PM >> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >> *Cc:* Chuck McCown >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] It has begun >> >> The extreme left is still better than the extreme right. >> >> I don't agree with either sides' extremes but if I had to pick one side, >> everyone being taken care of, like socialism, I'd pick that over the >> extreme right who wants to murder anyone different than them. Like far >> right pastors and supporters who call for violence and murder of gay >> people, people of color, and liberals. I can find thousands of posts and >> video from Republicans calling for sick things but very few liberals saying >> the same things. >> >> I don't see far left people calling for violence and murder of people >> they disagree with. >> >> So while there are two sides, one side is better than the other, as in >> less violent and extreme. >> >> I'd take free college for all, free Healthcare, and more from the extreme >> left over the extreme right who wants to ban books, kill people they >> disagree with, try to overturn elections, cheat, lie, steal, etc. Again, >> the left is the better choice when it comes to empathy and taking care of >> people. >> >> While an average republican might not agree with the far right, their >> silence is the same as being complicit in their sick beliefs. >> >> At least an average Democrat calls out the far left people like I do. I >> don't agree in wiping out all student loans, for example. And I've >> contacted democrats I've voted for to voice my opinions. >> >> I don't see Republicans calling out far right politicians who are spewing >> hate everyday. I wish they would but since they aren't, I assume they agree >> with the hate speech and calls for violence. >> >> The right is far sicker than the left in every regard. Donald being >> elected over Hillary will go down in history as one of the worst political >> events in our country. We would be a much nicer and stable country if >> Hillary won. The racists, bigots, and violent people would mostly be hiding >> still but Donald gave them permission to act out their hate when he was >> elected. It's very sad. >> >> People who still support Donald are bullies and hate America at this >> point. >> >> On Fri, Mar 24, 2023, 4:37 PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> >> wrote: >> >> Ouchie! >> You called me the C word... >> >> >> *From:* Robert >> *Sent:* Friday, March 24, 2023 3:32 PM >> *To:* af@af.afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] It has begun >> >> exactly this... What I have learned is there is such a thing as a good >> cult, which is what I consider the Mormon church to be. They have a few >> extreme points of view but on the whole they treat everyone ( now including >> other races ) reasonably... And they care about kids and back it up. >> >> On 3/24/23 2:12 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: >> >> I loved what the Gov of Utah told a bunch of school kids yesterday. >> >> “Republicans are wrong about Democrats and Democrats are wrong about >> Republicans. Why? Here’s why — because, what we’re doing now is we’re only >> listening to the most extreme voices in those parties. So Republicans are >> only listening to the craziest Democrats and assuming that all Democrats >> are like that. Democrats are only listening to the craziest Republicans and >> assuming all Republicans are like that. When the difference between the >> average Democrat and the average Republican, really isn’t that big.” >> >> *From:* Mike Hammett >> *Sent:* Friday, March 24, 2023 12:37 PM >> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] It has begun >> >> There's no meaningful difference between authoritarian left and >> authoritarian right, which are what catch the most attention. >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >> >> >> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >> ------------------------------ >> *From: *"Darin Steffl" mailto:darin.ste...@mnwifi.com >> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" mailto:af@af.afmug.com >> *Sent: *Thursday, March 23, 2023 9:40:58 PM >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] It has begun >> >> To be fair, anything left leaning is better for humanity. The right >> doesn't seem to care about anyone different than them. There's very little >> empathy from the right so if AI is here, it's best that it cares about all >> people in the information it provides. >> >> Don't bite my head off. I'm socially liberal and fiscally conservative. I >> care about all people, even if I don't like them. >> >> On Thu, Mar 23, 2023, 6:25 PM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> https://techcrunch.com/2023/03/23/openai-connects-chatgpt-to-the-internet/ >> >> >> I have to admit, Ive been using the shit out of chatgpt, from writing >> configs, to search engine replacement that actually answers questions, and >> just general fuckery to see what I can get it to do. It wont kill engineers >> or turn off exhaust systems in the building if you were curious. It does >> have a massive left leaning political bias. >> >> But some of the stuff it couldnt do because it wasnt connected to the >> internet, so now ill be back at it. I hope i can get it to do some wargames >> stuff. >> >> ... >> >> would you like to play a game >> >> Sure, I would love to play a game with you! What game would you like to >> play? >> [image: Steve Jones] >> global thermo nuclear warfare >> >> I'm sorry, but I cannot play a game of global thermonuclear warfare with >> you as it is not a real game, but rather a fictional concept popularized by >> the 1983 film "WarGames." Additionally, it is not appropriate to simulate a >> scenario involving nuclear weapons as it could be potentially harmful and >> insensitive to those affected by nuclear weapons in the past. 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