I vote for Lent.

Anyone else?

> On Mar 25, 2023, at 7:33 AM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
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> I wish AFMUG would stop going political. It really serves no purpose.
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> From: "Adam Moffett" <dmmoff...@gmail.com>
> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com>, "Darin Steffl" 
> <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com>
> Sent: Friday, March 24, 2023 5:18:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] It has begun
> 
> Why are we going down this road again?
> 
> Get Outlook for iOS
> From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> on behalf of Chuck McCown via AF 
> <af@af.afmug.com>
> Sent: Friday, March 24, 2023 6:14:09 PM
> To: Darin Steffl <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com>; AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> <af@af.afmug.com>
> Cc: Chuck McCown <ch...@go-mtc.com>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] It has begun
>  
> Karl Marx
> Lenin
> Stalin
> Putin
>  
> Pretty sure those dudes were far worst than Trump
> Even Castro
> Kim Jong Un
>  
> Seriously you thing the far left are better? 
>  
> From: Darin Steffl
> Sent: Friday, March 24, 2023 3:54 PM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> Cc: Chuck McCown
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] It has begun
>  
> The extreme left is still better than the extreme right.
>  
> I don't agree with either sides' extremes but if I had to pick one side, 
> everyone being taken care of, like socialism, I'd pick that over the extreme 
> right who wants to murder anyone different than them. Like far right pastors 
> and supporters who call for violence and murder of gay people, people of 
> color, and liberals. I can find thousands of posts and video from Republicans 
> calling for sick things but very few liberals saying the same things.
>  
> I don't see far left people calling for violence and murder of people they 
> disagree with.
>  
> So while there are two sides, one side is better than the other, as in less 
> violent and extreme.
>  
> I'd take free college for all, free Healthcare, and more from the extreme 
> left over the extreme right who wants to ban books, kill people they disagree 
> with, try to overturn elections, cheat, lie, steal, etc. Again, the left is 
> the better choice when it comes to empathy and taking care of people.
>  
> While an average republican might not agree with the far right, their silence 
> is the same as being complicit in their sick beliefs.
>  
> At least an average Democrat calls out the far left people like I do. I don't 
> agree in wiping out all student loans, for example. And I've contacted 
> democrats I've voted for to voice my opinions.
>  
> I don't see Republicans calling out far right politicians who are spewing 
> hate everyday. I wish they would but since they aren't, I assume they agree 
> with the hate speech and calls for violence.
>  
> The right is far sicker than the left in every regard. Donald being elected 
> over Hillary will go down in history as one of the worst political events in 
> our country. We would be a much nicer and stable country if Hillary won. The 
> racists, bigots, and violent people would mostly be hiding still but Donald 
> gave them permission to act out their hate when he was elected. It's very sad.
>  
> People who still support Donald are bullies and hate America at this point.
>  
> On Fri, Mar 24, 2023, 4:37 PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> wrote:
> Ouchie!
> You called me the C word...
>  
>  
> From: Robert
> Sent: Friday, March 24, 2023 3:32 PM
> To: af@af.afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] It has begun
>  
> exactly this...  What I have learned is there is such a thing as a good cult, 
> which is what I consider the Mormon church to be.  They have a few extreme 
> points of view but on the whole they treat everyone ( now including other 
> races ) reasonably...   And they care about kids and back it up.
> 
> On 3/24/23 2:12 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
> I loved what the Gov of Utah told a bunch of school kids yesterday. 
>  
> “Republicans are wrong about Democrats and Democrats are wrong about 
> Republicans. Why? Here’s why — because, what we’re doing now is we’re only 
> listening to the most extreme voices in those parties. So Republicans are 
> only listening to the craziest Democrats and assuming that all Democrats are 
> like that. Democrats are only listening to the craziest Republicans and 
> assuming all Republicans are like that. When the difference between the 
> average Democrat and the average Republican, really isn’t that big.”
>  
> From: Mike Hammett
> Sent: Friday, March 24, 2023 12:37 PM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] It has begun
>  
> There's no meaningful difference between authoritarian left and authoritarian 
> right, which are what catch the most attention.
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> From: "Darin Steffl" mailto:darin.ste...@mnwifi.com
> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" mailto:af@af.afmug.com
> Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 9:40:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] It has begun
> 
> To be fair, anything left leaning is better for humanity. The right doesn't 
> seem to care about anyone different than them. There's very little empathy 
> from the right so if AI is here, it's best that it cares about all people in 
> the information it provides.
>  
> Don't bite my head off. I'm socially liberal and fiscally conservative. I 
> care about all people, even if I don't like them.
>  
> On Thu, Mar 23, 2023, 6:25 PM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
> https://techcrunch.com/2023/03/23/openai-connects-chatgpt-to-the-internet/
>  
>  
> I have to admit, Ive been using the shit out of chatgpt, from writing 
> configs, to search engine replacement that actually answers questions, and 
> just general fuckery to see what I can get it to do. It wont kill engineers 
> or turn off exhaust systems in the building if you were curious. It does have 
> a massive left leaning political bias.
>  
> But some of the stuff it couldnt do because it wasnt connected to the 
> internet, so now ill be back at it. I hope i can get it to do some wargames 
> stuff.
>  
> ...
>  
> 
> would you like to play a game
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> Sure, I would love to play a game with you! What game would you like to play?
> 
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> 
> global thermo nuclear warfare
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> I'm sorry, but I cannot play a game of global thermonuclear warfare with you 
> as it is not a real game, but rather a fictional concept popularized by the 
> 1983 film "WarGames." Additionally, it is not appropriate to simulate a 
> scenario involving nuclear weapons
>  as it could be potentially harmful and insensitive to those affected by 
> nuclear weapons in the past. Is there another game you would like to play 
> instead?''
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