We have enough IPv4 for static to everyone, but went CGNAT and IPv6 dual stack a few years ago regardless.
I’m still surprised that we get almost no tickets involved with the actual CGNAT situation itself. We do get some that want to pay for “static” DHCP assigned public IPv4 so they can remote in or host gaming etc. But it’s been months, if not over a year, that we’ve had to “expire” a CGNAT public IP because of some sort of abuse or problem. That really does amaze me. At some point something shifted and people are no longer doing whatever it is they used to do that got IPv4 blacklisted. From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Mark Radabaugh Sent: Monday, March 6, 2023 1:31 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SFP+ cage extender It does. Also does IPv4 CG-NAT very well. We made it pretty far without having to resort to CG-NAT but the time came about a year ago :-) Mark On Mar 6, 2023, at 1:29 PM, Carl Peterson <cpeter...@portnetworks.com<mailto:cpeter...@portnetworks.com>> wrote: We use Juniper for BNG on a MX204 but I'd be interested in the Netelastic route if it does IPoE BNG. On Mon, Mar 6, 2023 at 12:24 PM Mark Radabaugh <m...@amplex.net<mailto:m...@amplex.net>> wrote: Same. Way less than Juniper (which we currently use but are migrating off of). Mark On Mar 6, 2023, at 1:09 PM, Gino A. Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com<mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>> wrote: We are using NetElastic for CGNAT + BNG, happy so far <asset9_6087ff1a-e4b2-42dc-8e37-828fd52a1737.png><https://aeronetpr.com/> Gino Villarini Founder / President @GVillarini 787.273.4143 | <asset7_7460a97c-d1f8-4aa7-a1db-f2a242ae25e4.png><https://www.inc.com/profile/aeronet> <asset4_90de6cc3-6a6e-42ea-8ee1-7c1c75ed1fba.png><https://www.facebook.com/aeronetpr> <asset1_8e2690da-eab4-4f70-bc52-aea656beff88.png><https://www.instagram.com/aeronetpr/> <asset2_348ee3e1-d43a-4c17-91c2-6c95ac766846.png><https://www.linkedin.com/company/aeronet-broadband-corp> <asset3_4a7ab080-a45e-48d4-a88f-2a02557e530f.png><https://twitter.com/aeronetpr> <asset5_cb8f047a-701e-4e36-9570-4e6e92f8689c.png><https://www.youtube.com/user/AeroNetPR> <asset6@2x_f661ca1c-dcf6-4863-943b-1b6d991f4304.png><https://wa.me/17872734144> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, PR 00968 <emailsignature-100_dac6c85b-39ed-4319-a6c4-a284cbddde85.jpg><https://aeronetpr.com/> From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> on behalf of Sterling Jacobson <sterl...@avative.com<mailto:sterl...@avative.com>> Date: Monday, March 6, 2023 at 2:05 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SFP+ cage extender I bet you are right. Cisco is probably more expensive than Juniper for CG-NAT would be my guess from what I’ve heard around shop. From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of dmmoff...@gmail.com<mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com> Sent: Monday, March 6, 2023 9:25 AM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SFP+ cage extender Sounds like we’re on a similar journey. Our new owners are a Juniper shop, but the Juniper CG-NAT solution was so expensive they went with A10 Networks for that function. Without licenses (and I think a feature card) the Juniper MX would only do 1:1 static NAT. It was cheaper to buy an A10 appliance than to get the licenses and such for Juniper MX. I don’t like A10. They’re weird. But we set them up once and never touch them again. They’re still not cheap, probably an order of magnitude more than Mikrotik, but they’re also an order of magnitude cheaper than implementing CG-NAT on the Juniper MX. I’d imagine Cisco will be in the same ballpark as Juniper, but I don’t know. From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of Sterling Jacobson Sent: Monday, March 06, 2023 10:13 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SFP+ cage extender I don’t know that since we don’t use it yet. I don’t have cost insight into our parent company’s infrastructure unless we adopt it. We’ll probably continue to use Mikrotik for CGNAT even with Calix for a few years since it works so well and costs so little. From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of dmmoff...@gmail.com<mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com> Sent: Monday, March 6, 2023 6:47 AM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SFP+ cage extender How is Cisco for CG-NAT? I looked into it for Juniper and if I recall correctly it required licensing and a feature card that it made it cost prohibitive. We went a different direction. Wondering if Cisco’s pricing is reasonable. From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of Sterling Jacobson Sent: Friday, March 03, 2023 5:52 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SFP+ cage extender Hi Gino! I’ll answer you and Carl here, same question. We have funding now from our parent company STRATA Networks, and they use Calix by the thousands, so being a Calix shop makes it easy on us in terms of everything. There doesn’t seem to be a mid-road XGSPON, maybe UI? I don’t know. TIBIT is like the least expensive but the hardest to get spun up. We had the resources to figure TIBIT out (eventually) and run with it before we finished a deal with the parent company. Calix is just on a whole other level, especially when we buy in to all the cool aid they are selling (parent company uses a lot/most of their feature set). So that is our new directive and big push. Along with that incidentally is the push to migrate from TPLink Deco managed router platform to Calix (again, the Gigaspire hardware and cool aid platform including marketing insights). So we have a short term project to migrate off of all of our TIBIT, mostly because it’s not manageable or able to be monitored from external systems. Calix integrates directly with Sonar v2 which is nice as well. So at some point we’ll have migrated our entire access network and managed routers to Calix. Still running Mikroitk core and edge routers, and customer facing CGNAT until we are absolutely so flush with cash that we just purchase the Cisco platform to do the central heavy lifting and just transport the whole load of Calix based E7 stuff back “home” to Cisco like our parent company does. More than you asked, but we are essentially converting wholesale from an Active Ethernet network to XGSPON/Calix and hope to eventually retire most of our power hungry switches, and even most of the Mikrotik. Just a part of growing up I guess lol From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of Gino A. 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Migrating off of them to Calix, so if anyone is interested in TIBIT we could give some supplies shortly and even an imaged VM controller etc. Carl, we use Mikrotik CRS305 here and there, are you asking about powering a TIBIT OLT? Or just a 10G media converter? The 10G media converters work in them, but Mikrotik states that you should “skip” every other port with those because they run HOT. Never tried a TIBIT OLT in it, but would probably also work. From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of Carl Peterson Sent: Friday, March 3, 2023 10:00 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SFP+ cage extender Hey Gino, Are you doing this directly through TiBit or through a distributor like Fonex? We had an NDA with TiBit from a long time ago but don't with Fonex. TiBit passed us off to Fonex. Am interested in what other distributors there are and what support numbers look like. 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See the pics I posted above. Just need to extend the SFP+ cage out of a Siklu radio. The alternative is to add another little switch but that adds complexity to what is a simple design. PON hanging off a Siklu for a small apartment building. Only thing active is the Siklu and the "SFP". One cyber power 48V battery backup to power the silku. If you add a switch, how are you powering it, where is it mounted, etc. On the note of adding a switch. Has anyone used the CRS305-1G-4S+IN? Anyone have a contact at Mikrotiik who could find out the SFP+ port's power budget? On Fri, Mar 3, 2023 at 9:32 AM <dmmoff...@gmail.com<mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote: I’m curious what Carl Peterson is doing too. The description on the linked item says it’s so you can put your electronics into immersed liquid cooling without exposing your optics to the liquid. Pretty esoteric stuff. Not understanding the use case, but assuming there’s a reason you can’t extend the fiber a few feet with a jumper and mating sleeve, then how about use a DAC to reach another switch? From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of Zach Underwood Sent: Friday, March 03, 2023 9:58 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SFP+ cage extender I am curious what the application is that a longer cable would not address? I have never heard of such a device. On Fri, Mar 3, 2023 at 9:56 AM Carl Peterson <cpeter...@portnetworks.com<mailto:cpeter...@portnetworks.com>> wrote: I have an application where I need to extend a SFP+ cage a foot or two but need 3.5W peak and 2.7W continuous power. The existing device supports the power but the only SFP+ cage extender I can find is only rated at 2.5W. Can you passively just extend the cage pins or is this something that requires electronics? 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