Same. Way less than Juniper (which we currently use but are migrating off of).
Mark > On Mar 6, 2023, at 1:09 PM, Gino A. Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com> wrote: > > We are using NetElastic for CGNAT + BNG, happy so far > > > > > > > <asset9_6087ff1a-e4b2-42dc-8e37-828fd52a1737.png> <https://aeronetpr.com/> > Gino Villarini > Founder / President > @GVillarini > 787.273.4143 | > <asset7_7460a97c-d1f8-4aa7-a1db-f2a242ae25e4.png> > <https://www.inc.com/profile/aeronet> > <asset4_90de6cc3-6a6e-42ea-8ee1-7c1c75ed1fba.png> > <https://www.facebook.com/aeronetpr> > <asset1_8e2690da-eab4-4f70-bc52-aea656beff88.png> > <https://www.instagram.com/aeronetpr/> > <asset2_348ee3e1-d43a-4c17-91c2-6c95ac766846.png> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/aeronet-broadband-corp> > <asset3_4a7ab080-a45e-48d4-a88f-2a02557e530f.png> > <https://twitter.com/aeronetpr> > <asset5_cb8f047a-701e-4e36-9570-4e6e92f8689c.png> > <https://www.youtube.com/user/AeroNetPR> > <https://wa.me/17872734143><asset6@2x_f661ca1c-dcf6-4863-943b-1b6d991f4304.png> > <https://wa.me/17872734144> > Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, PR 00968 > <https://homefi.pr/> <https://aeronetpr.com/> > <https://aeronetpr.com/><emailsignature-100_dac6c85b-39ed-4319-a6c4-a284cbddde85.jpg> > <https://aeronetpr.com/> > <https://homefi.pr/> > From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> on behalf of Sterling Jacobson > <sterl...@avative.com> > Date: Monday, March 6, 2023 at 2:05 PM > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SFP+ cage extender > > I bet you are right. > > Cisco is probably more expensive than Juniper for CG-NAT would be my guess > from what I’ve heard around shop. > > > > From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of dmmoff...@gmail.com > Sent: Monday, March 6, 2023 9:25 AM > To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SFP+ cage extender > > Sounds like we’re on a similar journey. > > Our new owners are a Juniper shop, but the Juniper CG-NAT solution was so > expensive they went with A10 Networks for that function. Without licenses > (and I think a feature card) the Juniper MX would only do 1:1 static NAT. It > was cheaper to buy an A10 appliance than to get the licenses and such for > Juniper MX. > I don’t like A10. They’re weird. But we set them up once and never touch > them again. They’re still not cheap, probably an order of magnitude more > than Mikrotik, but they’re also an order of magnitude cheaper than > implementing CG-NAT on the Juniper MX. I’d imagine Cisco will be in the > same ballpark as Juniper, but I don’t know. > > > > > From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf > Of Sterling Jacobson > Sent: Monday, March 06, 2023 10:13 AM > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com > <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SFP+ cage extender > > I don’t know that since we don’t use it yet. > I don’t have cost insight into our parent company’s infrastructure unless we > adopt it. > > We’ll probably continue to use Mikrotik for CGNAT even with Calix for a few > years since it works so well and costs so little. > > From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf > Of dmmoff...@gmail.com <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com> > Sent: Monday, March 6, 2023 6:47 AM > To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com > <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SFP+ cage extender > > How is Cisco for CG-NAT? > I looked into it for Juniper and if I recall correctly it required licensing > and a feature card that it made it cost prohibitive. We went a different > direction. Wondering if Cisco’s pricing is reasonable. > > > From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf > Of Sterling Jacobson > Sent: Friday, March 03, 2023 5:52 PM > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com > <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SFP+ cage extender > > Hi Gino! > > I’ll answer you and Carl here, same question. > > We have funding now from our parent company STRATA Networks, and they use > Calix by the thousands, so being a Calix shop makes it easy on us in terms of > everything. > > There doesn’t seem to be a mid-road XGSPON, maybe UI? I don’t know. > > TIBIT is like the least expensive but the hardest to get spun up. > We had the resources to figure TIBIT out (eventually) and run with it before > we finished a deal with the parent company. > > Calix is just on a whole other level, especially when we buy in to all the > cool aid they are selling (parent company uses a lot/most of their feature > set). > > So that is our new directive and big push. > > Along with that incidentally is the push to migrate from TPLink Deco managed > router platform to Calix (again, the Gigaspire hardware and cool aid platform > including marketing insights). > > So we have a short term project to migrate off of all of our TIBIT, mostly > because it’s not manageable or able to be monitored from external systems. > Calix integrates directly with Sonar v2 which is nice as well. > > So at some point we’ll have migrated our entire access network and managed > routers to Calix. > Still running Mikroitk core and edge routers, and customer facing CGNAT until > we are absolutely so flush with cash that we just purchase the Cisco platform > to do the central heavy lifting and just transport the whole load of Calix > based E7 stuff back “home” to Cisco like our parent company does. > > More than you asked, but we are essentially converting wholesale from an > Active Ethernet network to XGSPON/Calix and hope to eventually retire most of > our power hungry switches, and even most of the Mikrotik. > > Just a part of growing up I guess lol > > From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf > Of Gino A. Villarini > Sent: Friday, March 3, 2023 11:00 AM > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com > <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SFP+ cage extender > > Sterling, why you are moving away from Tibit? > > > > > > > <image001.png> > <https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Faeronetpr.com%2F&data=05%7C01%7Cgav%40aeronetpr.com%7C18774616b97a4f57411b08db1e6d5c28%7C786321c8ea74460e81c62d3479dd1728%7C0%7C0%7C638137227288106394%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=Rn%2FXW%2BvoLmZk9PbQghKj5V0%2FjuKsWZKHgRWEvDHPs0I%3D&reserved=0> > > Gino Villarini > Founder / President > @GVillarini > 787.273.4143 | > <image002.png> > <https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fprotect-us.mimecast.com%2Fs%2Fto_yC5yrppFvYpWIz5_HJ%3Fdomain%3Dinc.com&data=05%7C01%7Cgav%40aeronetpr.com%7C18774616b97a4f57411b08db1e6d5c28%7C786321c8ea74460e81c62d3479dd1728%7C0%7C0%7C638137227288106394%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=DotC4K2wRztZsROkDZYrf3iS7KY7kMA9dxk6iYy5TJo%3D&reserved=0> > > <image003.png> > <https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fprotect-us.mimecast.com%2Fs%2FQgFVC68vqqsDl0Gc6A9KI%3Fdomain%3Dfacebook.com&data=05%7C01%7Cgav%40aeronetpr.com%7C18774616b97a4f57411b08db1e6d5c28%7C786321c8ea74460e81c62d3479dd1728%7C0%7C0%7C638137227288106394%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=zdjkv5XHqKNYA72%2BVBv1rxCNiK59Vkpvlu23wKnO0k0%3D&reserved=0> > > <image004.png> > <https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fprotect-us.mimecast.com%2Fs%2FDurKC73wrrIqjVWSBung0%3Fdomain%3Dinstagram.com%2F&data=05%7C01%7Cgav%40aeronetpr.com%7C18774616b97a4f57411b08db1e6d5c28%7C786321c8ea74460e81c62d3479dd1728%7C0%7C0%7C638137227288106394%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=NYr0H7iFBP6hbC%2BGqJ7n0g5CBp0n6lt9pY3WzIBoYFg%3D&reserved=0> > > <image005.png> > <https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fprotect-us.mimecast.com%2Fs%2F6l9OC82xvvcr8PwtMe_e3%3Fdomain%3Dlinkedin.com&data=05%7C01%7Cgav%40aeronetpr.com%7C18774616b97a4f57411b08db1e6d5c28%7C786321c8ea74460e81c62d3479dd1728%7C0%7C0%7C638137227288106394%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=V0NnBCcKVkjrsALfZcpFryQpXKi1z0aqQcboeU3CMGs%3D&reserved=0> > > <image006.png> > <https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fprotect-us.mimecast.com%2Fs%2FFD-ZC9rywwF1VNYUP-0Jw%3Fdomain%3Dtwitter.com&data=05%7C01%7Cgav%40aeronetpr.com%7C18774616b97a4f57411b08db1e6d5c28%7C786321c8ea74460e81c62d3479dd1728%7C0%7C0%7C638137227288106394%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=hx5XeqxX0%2F9ZtkWKFDW5pBoo5feuIBq56S%2BiVGASE%2F8%3D&reserved=0> > > <image007.png> > <https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fprotect-us.mimecast.com%2Fs%2FPdaCC0Rmkks80grI3z75f%3Fdomain%3Dyoutube.com&data=05%7C01%7Cgav%40aeronetpr.com%7C18774616b97a4f57411b08db1e6d5c28%7C786321c8ea74460e81c62d3479dd1728%7C0%7C0%7C638137227288106394%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=EmviunoRWf60y2X51GktWnJVVLTX8VJiOurlNWXY8KI%3D&reserved=0> > > <image008.png> > <https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fprotect-us.mimecast.com%2Fs%2FBsQYCgJGjjhk5wYiZri5Z%3Fdomain%3Dwa.me&data=05%7C01%7Cgav%40aeronetpr.com%7C18774616b97a4f57411b08db1e6d5c28%7C786321c8ea74460e81c62d3479dd1728%7C0%7C0%7C638137227288106394%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=jvX2fIu8LMnZoGXec8lCcylZDdR9YM%2BlHLPFUKcko4M%3D&reserved=0> > Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, PR 00968 > <image009.jpg> > <https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Faeronetpr.com%2F&data=05%7C01%7Cgav%40aeronetpr.com%7C18774616b97a4f57411b08db1e6d5c28%7C786321c8ea74460e81c62d3479dd1728%7C0%7C0%7C638137227288106394%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=Rn%2FXW%2BvoLmZk9PbQghKj5V0%2FjuKsWZKHgRWEvDHPs0I%3D&reserved=0> > From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> on behalf > of Sterling Jacobson <sterl...@avative.com <mailto:sterl...@avative.com>> > Date: Friday, March 3, 2023 at 1:15 PM > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com > <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SFP+ cage extender > > We are using TIBIT, but native. Migrating off of them to Calix, so if anyone > is interested in TIBIT we could give some supplies shortly and even an imaged > VM controller etc. > > Carl, we use Mikrotik CRS305 here and there, are you asking about powering a > TIBIT OLT? Or just a 10G media converter? > > The 10G media converters work in them, but Mikrotik states that you should > “skip” every other port with those because they run HOT. > > Never tried a TIBIT OLT in it, but would probably also work. > > From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf > Of Carl Peterson > Sent: Friday, March 3, 2023 10:00 AM > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com > <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SFP+ cage extender > > Hey Gino, > > Are you doing this directly through TiBit or through a distributor like > Fonex? We had an NDA with TiBit from a long time ago but don't with Fonex. > TiBit passed us off to Fonex. Am interested in what other distributors there > are and what support numbers look like. > > On Fri, Mar 3, 2023 at 10:09 AM Gino A. Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com > <mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>> wrote: > We are about to do the same (Siklu+Tibit) , maybe a 10GbaseT to SFP+ Media > Converter will do? > > > > > > > <image001.png> > <https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fprotect-us.mimecast.com%2Fs%2F7CcJCjRkmms91Gytx7EmN%3Fdomain%3Dnam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com&data=05%7C01%7Cgav%40aeronetpr.com%7C18774616b97a4f57411b08db1e6d5c28%7C786321c8ea74460e81c62d3479dd1728%7C0%7C0%7C638137227288106394%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=rUsmlVXa8NZk9GGmoVmp0KdtRBvl5PgG7VOsmJXjjLI%3D&reserved=0> > > Gino Villarini > Founder / President > @GVillarini > 787.273.4143 | > <image002.png> > 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See the pics I posted above. Just need to > extend the SFP+ cage out of a Siklu radio. The alternative is to add another > little switch but that adds complexity to what is a simple design. PON > hanging off a Siklu for a small apartment building. Only thing active is the > Siklu and the "SFP". One cyber power 48V battery backup to power the silku. > If you add a switch, how are you powering it, where is it mounted, etc. > > On the note of adding a switch. Has anyone used the CRS305-1G-4S+IN? Anyone > have a contact at Mikrotiik who could find out the SFP+ port's power budget? > > On Fri, Mar 3, 2023 at 9:32 AM <dmmoff...@gmail.com > <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote: > I’m curious what Carl Peterson is doing too. > The description on the linked item says it’s so you can put your electronics > into immersed liquid cooling without exposing your optics to the liquid. > Pretty esoteric stuff. > > Not understanding the use case, but assuming there’s a reason you can’t > extend the fiber a few feet with a jumper and mating sleeve, then how about > use a DAC to reach another switch? > > > From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf > Of Zach Underwood > Sent: Friday, March 03, 2023 9:58 AM > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com > <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SFP+ cage extender > > I am curious what the application is that a longer cable would not address? I > have never heard of such a device. > > On Fri, Mar 3, 2023 at 9:56 AM Carl Peterson <cpeter...@portnetworks.com > <mailto:cpeter...@portnetworks.com>> wrote: > I have an application where I need to extend a SFP+ cage a foot or two but > need 3.5W peak and 2.7W continuous power. The existing device supports the > power but the only SFP+ cage extender I can find is only rated at 2.5W. Can > you passively just extend the cage pins or is this something that requires > electronics? Anyone know of a higher power SFP extension cable? > > https://www.sfpcables.com/sfp-to-sfp-cage-with-3m-flat-cable-in-nylon-jacket-20cm-and-55cm-length-3256-5454 > > <https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fprotect-us.mimecast.com%2Fs%2FKsF4Cv2zBBcX0LyFPoPYb%3Fdomain%3Dnam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com&data=05%7C01%7Cgav%40aeronetpr.com%7C18774616b97a4f57411b08db1e6d5c28%7C786321c8ea74460e81c62d3479dd1728%7C0%7C0%7C638137227288262618%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=xASApwMbQaxF%2FgkaxdsZBEjsecRXu77m5n2CpZL70Dk%3D&reserved=0> > > > -- > Carl Peterson > > PORT NETWORKS > > 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553 > > Baltimore, MD 21202 > > (410) 637-3707 > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > <https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fprotect-us.mimecast.com%2Fs%2F486yCxkBEESOqRQimhkWM%3Fdomain%3Dnam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com&data=05%7C01%7Cgav%40aeronetpr.com%7C18774616b97a4f57411b08db1e6d5c28%7C786321c8ea74460e81c62d3479dd1728%7C0%7C0%7C638137227288262618%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=TIl6au4IOpr6DcuG%2BR%2Ffv2XgrqxEqVP9meSx3lhVAtk%3D&reserved=0> > > > -- > Zach Underwood (RHCE,RHCSA,RHCT,UACA) > My website > <https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fprotect-us.mimecast.com%2Fs%2FF3EDCyPDGGhnm2ytLdGgL%3Fdomain%3Dnam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com&data=05%7C01%7Cgav%40aeronetpr.com%7C18774616b97a4f57411b08db1e6d5c28%7C786321c8ea74460e81c62d3479dd1728%7C0%7C0%7C638137227288262618%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=GBdhcGtcpvO9c7RXI57i%2F2GtLARwPSyz2nEOQmaHYtk%3D&reserved=0> > advance-networking.com > <https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fprotect-us.mimecast.com%2Fs%2FGYz9CAD2GGhYJl1UygHsf%3Fdomain%3Dnam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com&data=05%7C01%7Cgav%40aeronetpr.com%7C18774616b97a4f57411b08db1e6d5c28%7C786321c8ea74460e81c62d3479dd1728%7C0%7C0%7C638137227288262618%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=yGHSFk8MtvqWXH55gsoBUBwxnjzCcZsHsk8dhMnXcWA%3D&reserved=0> > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > <https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fprotect-us.mimecast.com%2Fs%2FzQ3sCBB2JJcoJRliATvom%3Fdomain%3Dnam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com&data=05%7C01%7Cgav%40aeronetpr.com%7C18774616b97a4f57411b08db1e6d5c28%7C786321c8ea74460e81c62d3479dd1728%7C0%7C0%7C638137227288262618%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=8JDQTErN1JdrsXsOgPoSHSIKJupcyAPrt1aXBrluRYc%3D&reserved=0> > > > -- > Carl Peterson > > PORT NETWORKS > > 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553 > > Baltimore, MD 21202 > > (410) 637-3707 > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > <https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fprotect-us.mimecast.com%2Fs%2FG8ypCDk2LLSPrJOsm_q42%3Fdomain%3Dnam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com&data=05%7C01%7Cgav%40aeronetpr.com%7C18774616b97a4f57411b08db1e6d5c28%7C786321c8ea74460e81c62d3479dd1728%7C0%7C0%7C638137227288262618%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=DVzQE5mhK8EQuORg9%2BZ%2BebfujwFUVJcp%2BVX%2BsdV87IA%3D&reserved=0> > > > -- > Carl Peterson > > PORT NETWORKS > > 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553 > > Baltimore, MD 21202 > > (410) 637-3707 > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
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