We use Juniper for BNG on a MX204 but I'd be interested in the Netelastic route if it does IPoE BNG.
On Mon, Mar 6, 2023 at 12:24 PM Mark Radabaugh <m...@amplex.net> wrote: > Same. Way less than Juniper (which we currently use but are migrating > off of). > > Mark > > > On Mar 6, 2023, at 1:09 PM, Gino A. Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com> wrote: > > We are using NetElastic for CGNAT + BNG, happy so far > > > > > > > <asset9_6087ff1a-e4b2-42dc-8e37-828fd52a1737.png> <https://aeronetpr.com/> > *Gino > Villarini* > Founder / President > @GVillarini > 787.273.4143 | > <asset7_7460a97c-d1f8-4aa7-a1db-f2a242ae25e4.png> > <https://www.inc.com/profile/aeronet> > <asset4_90de6cc3-6a6e-42ea-8ee1-7c1c75ed1fba.png> > <https://www.facebook.com/aeronetpr> > <asset1_8e2690da-eab4-4f70-bc52-aea656beff88.png> > <https://www.instagram.com/aeronetpr/> > <asset2_348ee3e1-d43a-4c17-91c2-6c95ac766846.png> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/aeronet-broadband-corp> > <asset3_4a7ab080-a45e-48d4-a88f-2a02557e530f.png> > <https://twitter.com/aeronetpr> > <asset5_cb8f047a-701e-4e36-9570-4e6e92f8689c.png> > <https://www.youtube.com/user/AeroNetPR> <https://wa.me/17872734143> > <asset6@2x_f661ca1c-dcf6-4863-943b-1b6d991f4304.png> > <https://wa.me/17872734144> > Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, PR 00968 > <https://homefi.pr/> <https://aeronetpr.com/> <https://aeronetpr.com/> > <emailsignature-100_dac6c85b-39ed-4319-a6c4-a284cbddde85.jpg> > <https://aeronetpr.com/> > <https://homefi.pr/> > > *From: *AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> on behalf of Sterling Jacobson < > sterl...@avative.com> > *Date: *Monday, March 6, 2023 at 2:05 PM > *To: *AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] SFP+ cage extender > > I bet you are right. > > > > Cisco is probably more expensive than Juniper for CG-NAT would be my guess > from what I’ve heard around shop. > > > > > > > > *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of * dmmoff...@gmail.com > *Sent:* Monday, March 6, 2023 9:25 AM > *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SFP+ cage extender > > > > Sounds like we’re on a similar journey. > > > > Our new owners are a Juniper shop, but the Juniper CG-NAT solution was so > expensive they went with A10 Networks for that function. Without licenses > (and I think a feature card) the Juniper MX would only do 1:1 static NAT. > It was cheaper to buy an A10 appliance than to get the licenses and such > for Juniper MX. > > I don’t like A10. They’re weird. But we set them up once and never touch > them again. They’re still not cheap, probably an order of magnitude more > than Mikrotik, but they’re also an order of magnitude cheaper than > implementing CG-NAT on the Juniper MX. I’d imagine Cisco will be in the > same ballpark as Juniper, but I don’t know. > > > > > > > > > > *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Sterling Jacobson > *Sent:* Monday, March 06, 2023 10:13 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SFP+ cage extender > > > > I don’t know that since we don’t use it yet. > > I don’t have cost insight into our parent company’s infrastructure unless > we adopt it. > > > > We’ll probably continue to use Mikrotik for CGNAT even with Calix for a > few years since it works so well and costs so little. > > > > *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *dmmoff...@gmail.com > *Sent:* Monday, March 6, 2023 6:47 AM > *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SFP+ cage extender > > > > How is Cisco for CG-NAT? > > I looked into it for Juniper and if I recall correctly it required > licensing and a feature card that it made it cost prohibitive. We went a > different direction. Wondering if Cisco’s pricing is reasonable. > > > > > > *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Sterling Jacobson > *Sent:* Friday, March 03, 2023 5:52 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SFP+ cage extender > > > > Hi Gino! > > > > I’ll answer you and Carl here, same question. > > > > We have funding now from our parent company STRATA Networks, and they use > Calix by the thousands, so being a Calix shop makes it easy on us in terms > of everything. > > > > There doesn’t seem to be a mid-road XGSPON, maybe UI? I don’t know. > > > > TIBIT is like the least expensive but the hardest to get spun up. > > We had the resources to figure TIBIT out (eventually) and run with it > before we finished a deal with the parent company. > > > > Calix is just on a whole other level, especially when we buy in to all the > cool aid they are selling (parent company uses a lot/most of their feature > set). > > > > So that is our new directive and big push. > > > > Along with that incidentally is the push to migrate from TPLink Deco > managed router platform to Calix (again, the Gigaspire hardware and cool > aid platform including marketing insights). > > > > So we have a short term project to migrate off of all of our TIBIT, mostly > because it’s not manageable or able to be monitored from external systems. > > Calix integrates directly with Sonar v2 which is nice as well. > > > > So at some point we’ll have migrated our entire access network and managed > routers to Calix. > > Still running Mikroitk core and edge routers, and customer facing CGNAT > until we are absolutely so flush with cash that we just purchase the Cisco > platform to do the central heavy lifting and just transport the whole load > of Calix based E7 stuff back “home” to Cisco like our parent company does. > > > > More than you asked, but we are essentially converting wholesale from an > Active Ethernet network to XGSPON/Calix and hope to eventually retire most > of our power hungry switches, and even most of the Mikrotik. > > > > Just a part of growing up I guess lol > > > > *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Gino A. Villarini > *Sent:* Friday, March 3, 2023 11:00 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SFP+ cage extender > > > > Sterling, why you are moving away from Tibit? > > > > > > > > > > <image001.png> > <https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Faeronetpr.com%2F&data=05%7C01%7Cgav%40aeronetpr.com%7C18774616b97a4f57411b08db1e6d5c28%7C786321c8ea74460e81c62d3479dd1728%7C0%7C0%7C638137227288106394%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=Rn%2FXW%2BvoLmZk9PbQghKj5V0%2FjuKsWZKHgRWEvDHPs0I%3D&reserved=0> > > *Gino Villarini* > Founder / President > @GVillarini > 787.273.4143 | > > <image002.png> > <https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fprotect-us.mimecast.com%2Fs%2Fto_yC5yrppFvYpWIz5_HJ%3Fdomain%3Dinc.com&data=05%7C01%7Cgav%40aeronetpr.com%7C18774616b97a4f57411b08db1e6d5c28%7C786321c8ea74460e81c62d3479dd1728%7C0%7C0%7C638137227288106394%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=DotC4K2wRztZsROkDZYrf3iS7KY7kMA9dxk6iYy5TJo%3D&reserved=0> > > <image003.png> > <https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fprotect-us.mimecast.com%2Fs%2FQgFVC68vqqsDl0Gc6A9KI%3Fdomain%3Dfacebook.com&data=05%7C01%7Cgav%40aeronetpr.com%7C18774616b97a4f57411b08db1e6d5c28%7C786321c8ea74460e81c62d3479dd1728%7C0%7C0%7C638137227288106394%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=zdjkv5XHqKNYA72%2BVBv1rxCNiK59Vkpvlu23wKnO0k0%3D&reserved=0> > > <image004.png> > <https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fprotect-us.mimecast.com%2Fs%2FDurKC73wrrIqjVWSBung0%3Fdomain%3Dinstagram.com%2F&data=05%7C01%7Cgav%40aeronetpr.com%7C18774616b97a4f57411b08db1e6d5c28%7C786321c8ea74460e81c62d3479dd1728%7C0%7C0%7C638137227288106394%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=NYr0H7iFBP6hbC%2BGqJ7n0g5CBp0n6lt9pY3WzIBoYFg%3D&reserved=0> > > <image005.png> > <https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fprotect-us.mimecast.com%2Fs%2F6l9OC82xvvcr8PwtMe_e3%3Fdomain%3Dlinkedin.com&data=05%7C01%7Cgav%40aeronetpr.com%7C18774616b97a4f57411b08db1e6d5c28%7C786321c8ea74460e81c62d3479dd1728%7C0%7C0%7C638137227288106394%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=V0NnBCcKVkjrsALfZcpFryQpXKi1z0aqQcboeU3CMGs%3D&reserved=0> > > <image006.png> > <https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fprotect-us.mimecast.com%2Fs%2FFD-ZC9rywwF1VNYUP-0Jw%3Fdomain%3Dtwitter.com&data=05%7C01%7Cgav%40aeronetpr.com%7C18774616b97a4f57411b08db1e6d5c28%7C786321c8ea74460e81c62d3479dd1728%7C0%7C0%7C638137227288106394%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=hx5XeqxX0%2F9ZtkWKFDW5pBoo5feuIBq56S%2BiVGASE%2F8%3D&reserved=0> > > <image007.png> > <https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fprotect-us.mimecast.com%2Fs%2FPdaCC0Rmkks80grI3z75f%3Fdomain%3Dyoutube.com&data=05%7C01%7Cgav%40aeronetpr.com%7C18774616b97a4f57411b08db1e6d5c28%7C786321c8ea74460e81c62d3479dd1728%7C0%7C0%7C638137227288106394%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=EmviunoRWf60y2X51GktWnJVVLTX8VJiOurlNWXY8KI%3D&reserved=0> > > <image008.png> > <https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fprotect-us.mimecast.com%2Fs%2FBsQYCgJGjjhk5wYiZri5Z%3Fdomain%3Dwa.me&data=05%7C01%7Cgav%40aeronetpr.com%7C18774616b97a4f57411b08db1e6d5c28%7C786321c8ea74460e81c62d3479dd1728%7C0%7C0%7C638137227288106394%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=jvX2fIu8LMnZoGXec8lCcylZDdR9YM%2BlHLPFUKcko4M%3D&reserved=0> > > Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, PR 00968 > > <image009.jpg> > <https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Faeronetpr.com%2F&data=05%7C01%7Cgav%40aeronetpr.com%7C18774616b97a4f57411b08db1e6d5c28%7C786321c8ea74460e81c62d3479dd1728%7C0%7C0%7C638137227288106394%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=Rn%2FXW%2BvoLmZk9PbQghKj5V0%2FjuKsWZKHgRWEvDHPs0I%3D&reserved=0> > > *From: *AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> on behalf of Sterling Jacobson < > sterl...@avative.com> > *Date: *Friday, March 3, 2023 at 1:15 PM > *To: *AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] SFP+ cage extender > > We are using TIBIT, but native. Migrating off of them to Calix, so if > anyone is interested in TIBIT we could give some supplies shortly and even > an imaged VM controller etc. > > > > Carl, we use Mikrotik CRS305 here and there, are you asking about powering > a TIBIT OLT? Or just a 10G media converter? > > > > The 10G media converters work in them, but Mikrotik states that you should > “skip” every other port with those because they run HOT. > > > > Never tried a TIBIT OLT in it, but would probably also work. > > > > *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Carl Peterson > *Sent:* Friday, March 3, 2023 10:00 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SFP+ cage extender > > > > Hey Gino, > > > > Are you doing this directly through TiBit or through a distributor like > Fonex? We had an NDA with TiBit from a long time ago but don't with > Fonex. TiBit passed us off to Fonex. Am interested in what other > distributors there are and what support numbers look like. > > > > On Fri, Mar 3, 2023 at 10:09 AM Gino A. Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com> > wrote: > > We are about to do the same (Siklu+Tibit) , maybe a 10GbaseT to SFP+ Media > Converter will do? > > > > > > > > > > <image001.png> > <https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fprotect-us.mimecast.com%2Fs%2F7CcJCjRkmms91Gytx7EmN%3Fdomain%3Dnam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com&data=05%7C01%7Cgav%40aeronetpr.com%7C18774616b97a4f57411b08db1e6d5c28%7C786321c8ea74460e81c62d3479dd1728%7C0%7C0%7C638137227288106394%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=rUsmlVXa8NZk9GGmoVmp0KdtRBvl5PgG7VOsmJXjjLI%3D&reserved=0> > > *Gino Villarini* > Founder / President > @GVillarini > 787.273.4143 | > > <image002.png> > 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<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fprotect-us.mimecast.com%2Fs%2F7CcJCjRkmms91Gytx7EmN%3Fdomain%3Dnam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com&data=05%7C01%7Cgav%40aeronetpr.com%7C18774616b97a4f57411b08db1e6d5c28%7C786321c8ea74460e81c62d3479dd1728%7C0%7C0%7C638137227288262618%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=9qZvTp1y%2FPP3a8EBRXmLU6Wx88Q%2B1c9hZMaCbhqpFRI%3D&reserved=0> > > *From: *AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> on behalf of Carl Peterson < > cpeter...@portnetworks.com> > *Date: *Friday, March 3, 2023 at 11:51 AM > *To: *AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] SFP+ cage extender > > I'm not doing liquid cooling. See the pics I posted above. Just need to > extend the SFP+ cage out of a Siklu radio. The alternative is to add > another little switch but that adds complexity to what is a simple design. > PON hanging off a Siklu for a small apartment building. Only thing active > is the Siklu and the "SFP". One cyber power 48V battery backup to power > the silku. If you add a switch, how are you powering it, where is it > mounted, etc. > > > > On the note of adding a switch. Has anyone used the CRS305-1G-4S+IN? > Anyone have a contact at Mikrotiik who could find out the SFP+ port's power > budget? > > > > On Fri, Mar 3, 2023 at 9:32 AM <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I’m curious what Carl Peterson is doing too. > > The description on the linked item says it’s so you can put your > electronics into immersed liquid cooling without exposing your optics to > the liquid. Pretty esoteric stuff. > > > > Not understanding the use case, but assuming there’s a reason you can’t > extend the fiber a few feet with a jumper and mating sleeve, then how about > use a DAC to reach another switch? > > > > > > *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Zach Underwood > *Sent:* Friday, March 03, 2023 9:58 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SFP+ cage extender > > > > I am curious what the application is that a longer cable would not > address? I have never heard of such a device. > > > > On Fri, Mar 3, 2023 at 9:56 AM Carl Peterson <cpeter...@portnetworks.com> > wrote: > > I have an application where I need to extend a SFP+ cage a foot or two but > need 3.5W peak and 2.7W continuous power. The existing device supports the > power but the only SFP+ cage extender I can find is only rated at 2.5W. > Can you passively just extend the cage pins or is this something that > requires electronics? Anyone know of a higher power SFP extension cable? > > > > > https://www.sfpcables.com/sfp-to-sfp-cage-with-3m-flat-cable-in-nylon-jacket-20cm-and-55cm-length-3256-5454 > <https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fprotect-us.mimecast.com%2Fs%2FKsF4Cv2zBBcX0LyFPoPYb%3Fdomain%3Dnam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com&data=05%7C01%7Cgav%40aeronetpr.com%7C18774616b97a4f57411b08db1e6d5c28%7C786321c8ea74460e81c62d3479dd1728%7C0%7C0%7C638137227288262618%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=xASApwMbQaxF%2FgkaxdsZBEjsecRXu77m5n2CpZL70Dk%3D&reserved=0> > > > > > > -- > > Carl Peterson > > *PORT NETWORKS* > > 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553 > > Baltimore, MD 21202 > > (410) 637-3707 > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > <https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fprotect-us.mimecast.com%2Fs%2F486yCxkBEESOqRQimhkWM%3Fdomain%3Dnam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com&data=05%7C01%7Cgav%40aeronetpr.com%7C18774616b97a4f57411b08db1e6d5c28%7C786321c8ea74460e81c62d3479dd1728%7C0%7C0%7C638137227288262618%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=TIl6au4IOpr6DcuG%2BR%2Ffv2XgrqxEqVP9meSx3lhVAtk%3D&reserved=0> > > > > > -- > > Zach Underwood (RHCE,RHCSA,RHCT,UACA) > > My website > <https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fprotect-us.mimecast.com%2Fs%2FF3EDCyPDGGhnm2ytLdGgL%3Fdomain%3Dnam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com&data=05%7C01%7Cgav%40aeronetpr.com%7C18774616b97a4f57411b08db1e6d5c28%7C786321c8ea74460e81c62d3479dd1728%7C0%7C0%7C638137227288262618%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=GBdhcGtcpvO9c7RXI57i%2F2GtLARwPSyz2nEOQmaHYtk%3D&reserved=0> > > advance-networking.com > <https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fprotect-us.mimecast.com%2Fs%2FGYz9CAD2GGhYJl1UygHsf%3Fdomain%3Dnam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com&data=05%7C01%7Cgav%40aeronetpr.com%7C18774616b97a4f57411b08db1e6d5c28%7C786321c8ea74460e81c62d3479dd1728%7C0%7C0%7C638137227288262618%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=yGHSFk8MtvqWXH55gsoBUBwxnjzCcZsHsk8dhMnXcWA%3D&reserved=0> > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > <https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fprotect-us.mimecast.com%2Fs%2FzQ3sCBB2JJcoJRliATvom%3Fdomain%3Dnam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com&data=05%7C01%7Cgav%40aeronetpr.com%7C18774616b97a4f57411b08db1e6d5c28%7C786321c8ea74460e81c62d3479dd1728%7C0%7C0%7C638137227288262618%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=8JDQTErN1JdrsXsOgPoSHSIKJupcyAPrt1aXBrluRYc%3D&reserved=0> > > > > > -- > > Carl Peterson > > *PORT NETWORKS* > > 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553 > > Baltimore, MD 21202 > > (410) 637-3707 > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > <https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fprotect-us.mimecast.com%2Fs%2FG8ypCDk2LLSPrJOsm_q42%3Fdomain%3Dnam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com&data=05%7C01%7Cgav%40aeronetpr.com%7C18774616b97a4f57411b08db1e6d5c28%7C786321c8ea74460e81c62d3479dd1728%7C0%7C0%7C638137227288262618%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=DVzQE5mhK8EQuORg9%2BZ%2BebfujwFUVJcp%2BVX%2BsdV87IA%3D&reserved=0> > > > > > -- > > Carl Peterson > > *PORT NETWORKS* > > 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553 > > Baltimore, MD 21202 > > (410) 637-3707 > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- Carl Peterson *PORT NETWORKS* 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553 Baltimore, MD 21202 (410) 637-3707
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